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PostPosted: 01-Aug-2008 14:07    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

One of my latest projects has been to redo my laptop with Windows XP multi-booted with a couple of Linux distros (Mandriva PowerPack 2008.1 Spring and Red Hat Enterprise Client 5 to be exact) in place of the preload of Vista Home Premium (god damn I hate Vista).

In preparation for that I spent a week performing DVD burns of all my files, 13 DVDs in total for all my videos, music, documents, and downloads I wanted to save, as well as a 538MB CD of all the relevant drivers from Acer for this laptop for XP, a 652MB CD with all my Linux Paid Software (NeroLinux 3, Cedega 6, and Crossver Pro 6), and burning and testing ALL of my backed up ISO files to CD (another 17 CDs).

However, despite all this careful prep, I still missed a few things before formatting last night. Namely all of my HMPro files (thankfully I *DO* have an older backup of these so only missing the most recent slew of designs), my Sims1 data files, my savegames for MW4:Mercs (I was gonna play a whole new campaign anyways, so this is *OK*, but still disappointing), my AOE, and AOE2 saves, Civ4 saves, and a few other game saves I can't think of off the top of my head.

Thankfully I have Mordel! I've posted all of my non-backed up designs except TWO to this site, so I didn't really lose them. I now have yet another reason to love this site, online offsite backup of my files Very Happy.

I did lose one critical thing that I'd like to slap myself for, my thunderbird files with all my saved emails. I have no way to recoup most of these, so it is a Bad Thing(tm). Oh well, live and learn.
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PostPosted: 01-Aug-2008 15:49    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Anyone who can use a computer beyond e-mail and internet hates Vista. Its a total piece of crap that MS is getting burned bad for. Even more so then most MS products.

A lot of producers are getting complaints and are having to offer the option whether to load Vista or XP.

And, ya... Mordels has saved my data files for my customs dozens of times now. No place is more a home on the internet.
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PostPosted: 01-Aug-2008 19:18    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
Anyone who can use a computer beyond e-mail and internet hates Vista. Its a total piece of crap that MS is getting burned bad for. Even more so then most MS products.

A lot of producers are getting complaints and are having to offer the option whether to load Vista or XP.

And, ya... Mordels has saved my data files for my customs dozens of times now. No place is more a home on the internet.


I use Vista at work...I won't be upgrading my computers to it but it is FAR from as bad as its reputation.
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PostPosted: 01-Aug-2008 20:20    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have Vista on my laptop... It bugs the hell out of me when compared to XP. I was only opposed to having it at 1st because i didn't want the release version of VISTA as i like to wait till the OS has been out for a bit. Now i feel like I got ME'd again.
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PostPosted: 01-Aug-2008 20:20    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

An interesting Vista article...

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Turns out some of Vista's strongest critics may not even know what they're criticizing.

Microsoft, the reigning OS king, has received more than its share of criticism for Windows Vista. The OS, which suffered both from poor initial hardware compatibility and from relatively large resource demands has been shunned by many of the largest players in the business community. Some have come out in vocal support of Vista, arguing against those who feel Vista is broken an XP downgrade might be in order.
These supporters got a little more ammo to back their arguments thanks to a comical experiment put on by Microsoft. As part of its new PR efforts, which include "anti-Mac Guy" commercials, Microsoft conducted a top secret experiment known as the "Mojave" Experiment.

Inspired by an employee email from Microsoft's David Webster, the Vista team gathered over 120 XP users in San Francisco who were critical of Windows Vista. After being questioned on video about their Vista impressions, Microsoft told them it was giving them a stunning opportunity -- the chance to view their secret operating system they had been cooking up, codenamed "Mojave". The excited users showed great enthusiasm for the new operating system, with over 90 percent giving positive feedback of the 10 minute demo of the system.

The comic twist is that there is no "Mojave" and it wasn't a pre-release version of Windows 7. "Mojave" was simply a fictitious title applied to a standard Windows Vista install. Interestingly, the XP users seemed utterly unable to recognize Vista or its features, despite criticizing it. Remarked one user on the new features, "Oh wow!"

While it has been pointed out that the experience neglects to consider installation and networking setup, the "Mojave" experiment provides a strong case for the upsides of Vista analogous to the classic blind taste test advertising gimmick. While Microsoft is still deliberating on how to incorporate the footage into its advertising campaigns, suffice it to say, it is coming soon.

Windows unit business chief Bill Veghte says big efforts are needed to step up Microsoft's image against competitors like Apple and Google. He states, "We have a huge perception opportunity. We are going to try a bunch of stuff."

Mr. Veghte points to the "Assurance" campaign for Vista launched earlier this month which offers free technical phone support for the first time. While the move will likely cost Microsoft in the millions, many believe it will help Microsoft show that it is willing to support Vista fully, including when users encounter trouble.

Footage for the campaign was first revealed last week. The site which they will be featured on is here. The footage will be released to the public on Tuesday of this week.
However, trouble in Vista Mr. Veghte asserts, is a rarity and the main problem for the OS is perception. Mr. Veghte is known to stew over Apple commercials on his morning jogs. His decision to encourage Microsoft to commit to the massive new PR effort was finally solidified when he decided that Apple had "crossed a line" from factual to fallacious accusations. Marketing vice president Brad Brook echoed similar sentiments, stating that Microsoft would be "drawing a line in the sand'

Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO also shares these feelings, stating, "In the weeks ahead, we'll launch a campaign to address any lingering doubts our customers may have about Windows Vista. And later this year, you'll see a more comprehensive effort to redefine the meaning and value of Windows for our customers."

However, at the end of the day the Mojave ruse may prove a more valuable marketing tool than anything Mr. Ballmer or Mr. Veghte could say or do on their own, as it’s the voice of everyday users.

With rival Apple showing strong signs of hardware growth, fueled by its virulent advertising campaign, which many call factually questionable, Microsoft has decided to step up to the plate to challenge its assertions. Mojave should be a key effort in this new campaign. Mr. Veghte believes that the Vista team cannot wait for Windows 7 to change their fortune; they must attack now. He states, "I've got to start having that discussion in the marketplace. I've got to start driving that now. People feel guilty (about Vista). It's wrong."

Don't be surprised if you start seeing Microsoft "Mojave" commercials coming soon to a television near you.


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PostPosted: 02-Aug-2008 10:08    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

And I'm sure they didn't try to install software either. Which is the real bitch in Vista. Between the constant nagging of UAC, and the SEVERE compatibility issues even with software thats only 2-3 years old, Vista is by far the biggest POS I've ever dealt with. Both personally and professionally.

That said, Vista DOES have some good points. However, sadly, like so many things M$ has "come out with" lately... they are stolen from the Linux/Unix world.

Who had tabbed browsing first? Well, gee, the *nix browsers such as Firefox and Opera did of course. Now IE7 has it.

Also *nix has had for a VERY long time strong security profiles regarding the installation of system wide software. Of course, you can install ANYTHING locally into your personal account as long as you keep under your quota. Vista doesn't allow that too much.

Anyways, I used it for over a year and a half (Vista Home Premium) and while there were a few nice things I liked... I've enough personal experience now to call it the trash it is.
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PostPosted: 02-Aug-2008 10:47    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

UAC is a security feature...it's supposed to nag you. Laughing
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PostPosted: 02-Aug-2008 22:51    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

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UAC is a security feature...it's supposed to nag you. Laughing


Which is fine in CERTAIN environments. But on Home editions should NEVER be enabled by default if its going to ask your 15 times if its OK during one install. I want to start an install and go make dinner while it finishes. Not sit there and have to keep clicking crap. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 03-Aug-2008 07:05    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

You could always just turn it off Laughing

Linky with a really, really long URL
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PostPosted: 04-Aug-2008 08:58    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

chihawk wrote:
You could always just turn it off Laughing

Linky with a really, really long URL


Which I did (without needing instructions Wink ). However the majority of home users who already don't know minimize from maximize wouldn't know their top from their bottom...

And how did this discussion of thankfulness on my BT files being here get turned into another Vista rant anyways? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 04-Aug-2008 15:02    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

because Vista sucks and Mordels is cool.
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PostPosted: 04-Aug-2008 18:58    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
because Vista sucks and Mordels is cool.


I'll echo that. Smile

Actually, I've never used Vista, so I can't comment on it. As for my site, your stuff will always be here.
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PostPosted: 14-Aug-2008 20:08    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

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As for my site, your stuff will always be here.


Which is why its one of the best sites on the net (IMnsHO), and why I'll always be here (barring death, incarceration, or finding a worthwhile woman... and that last probably wouldn't truly keep me away, just slow me down Wink )
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PostPosted: 14-Aug-2008 21:17    Post subject: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

or you find a worthwhile woman who joins you on this site.
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PostPosted: 16-Aug-2008 10:49    Post subject: Re: Well, I did a grand stupid last night. Reply to topic Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
or you find a worthwhile woman who joins you on this site.


Not everyone can be as lucky as you mate Wink Very Happy
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