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								|  Posted: 15-Feb-2007 18:49    Post subject: Bosbok Recon Car |     |  
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 Type/Model:    Bosbok Recon Car
 Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3015
 Config:        Wheeled Vehicle
 Rules:         Level 2-FA, Standard design
 
 Mass:          20 tons
 Power Plant:   120 Icarus Fusion
 Cruise Speed:  75.6 km/h
 Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
 Armor Type:    Cast Iridium Standard
 Armament:
 2 Averell Highpoint Medium Lasers
 2 Laysoon Systems Guardian ECMs
 1 Hughes Martin Beagle Probe Beagle Active Probe
 Manufacturer:  Dupont-Faben Industries
 Location:    Faery
 Communications System:  Laysoon Comm System Model 10 w/Guardian
 Targeting & Tracking System:  Hughes Martin TTS w/Beagle Active Probe
 
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 ==Overview:==
 The Bosbok Recon Car enter service as part of a regional defense force build
 up in during the collaspe of the 2nd Vondor Imperium, a memeber nation state
 of the Co-Alliance,  and the ousting of Fanstal the Third. This happened
 during the current war with the Karagin and their massive leap frog invasion
 waves. The lost of major key worlds caused the Imperium to falter on the
 battlefield has world after world rushed to defend it self and in doing so
 caused many units to get conflicting orders or no orders at all.
 
 The aftermath was a coup on the Vondor homeworld and a counter-coup all with a
 four to six time day time frame. Followed by a armimist with the Karagin.
 
 The Bosbok was seen in use by the newly formed Imperium Rangers and Junner
 Brigades. Both of which are setup as light to medium raider/scout brigades.
 These units are tasked with landings on target planets to conduct harassment
 raids and attacks all in support over a larger invasion force.
 
 The twin medium lasers are it's main weapons of defense and offense. The
 electronic package that the Bosbok carries is setup to seek out the enemy and
 to mask itself at the same time. Dual countermeasure are inplace to help
 ensure that.
 
 With this vehicle just entering active service with the Imperium, it's high
 tech electronics are seen as one step for the Imperium to reach the same
 playing field as it's fellow members of the Co-Alliance as well as to give to
 the Karagin a surprise or two when the next war breaks out.
 
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 Type/Model:    Bosbok Recon Car
 Mass:          20 tons
 Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting
 
 Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
 Int. Struct.:  8 pts Standard                0      2.00
 Engine:        120 Fusion                    0      4.00
 Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      2.00
 Cruise MP:   7
 Flank MP:  11
 Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
 Cockpit & Controls:                          0      1.00
 Crew: 2 Members                              0       .00
 Armor Factor:   72 pts Standard              0      4.50
 
 Internal    Armor
 Structure   Value
 Front:                     2         22
 Left / Right Sides:        2      18/18
 Rear:                      2         14
 
 Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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 2 Medium Lasers          Front    6          2      2.00
 2 Guardian ECMs          Body     0          2      3.00
 1 Beagle Active Probe    Front    0          1      1.50
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 TOTALS:                           6          5     20.00
 Items & Tons Left:                           4       .00
 
 Calculated Factors:
 Total Cost:        1,006,500 C-Bills
 Battle Value:      374
 Cost per BV:       2,691.18
 Weapon Value:      114 / 114 (Ratio = .30 / .30)
 Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 8;  MRDmg = 1;  LRDmg = 0
 BattleForce2:      MP: 7W,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
 Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-,  Overheat: 0
 Class: GL;  Point Value: 4
 Specials: ecm, prb
 
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								|  Posted: 22-Feb-2007 10:22    Post subject: |     |  
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								| Funny, I am working on a new recon vehcile also. 
 Price is right for this one. ML are more for defense. But the wheeled and speed make it a little vunerable. I see it as a long range quite and behind the lines info gathering than front line recon, like the swiftwind.
 
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					| Karagin Imperial Karagin Army
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								| Thanks. I tried to go for something that didn't seem to over the top and yet still had the recon feel to it. _________________
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								|  Posted: 23-Feb-2007 10:29    Post subject: |     |  
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								| Not bad, but the ECM suites would use some explanation (ECM and ECCM use is obvious, but it's still uncommon to see two ECMs on one unit... well the rules say it's not allowed - p. 136 BMR revised, but this may no longer be actual with new rules). _________________
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								|  Posted: 23-Feb-2007 22:13    Post subject: |     |  
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								| 	 		| Sleeping Dragon wrote: |  	  	| Not bad, but the ECM suites would use some explanation (ECM and ECCM use is obvious, but it's still uncommon to see two ECMs on one unit... well the rules say it's not allowed - p. 136 BMR revised, but this may no longer be actual with new rules). |  
 You may want to look at MaxTech and the counter ECM rules there...
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								|  Posted: 24-Feb-2007 02:26    Post subject: |     |  
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								| 	 		| Karagin wrote: |  	  	| 	 		| Sleeping Dragon wrote: |  	  	| Not bad, but the ECM suites would use some explanation (ECM and ECCM use is obvious, but it's still uncommon to see two ECMs on one unit... well the rules say it's not allowed - p. 136 BMR revised, but this may no longer be actual with new rules). |  
 You may want to look at MaxTech and the counter ECM rules there...
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 Thats what he referred to!
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								| EDIT: Ex-double post! Sorry! _________________
 Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
 
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								|  Posted: 24-Feb-2007 10:01    Post subject: |     |  
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								| 	 		| Rudel Gurken wrote: |  	  	| 	 		| Karagin wrote: |  	  	| 	 		| Sleeping Dragon wrote: |  	  	| Not bad, but the ECM suites would use some explanation (ECM and ECCM use is obvious, but it's still uncommon to see two ECMs on one unit... well the rules say it's not allowed - p. 136 BMR revised, but this may no longer be actual with new rules). |  
 You may want to look at MaxTech and the counter ECM rules there...
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 Thats what he referred to!
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 I don't see that in his posting, I see him telling us that BMR-R says it can't be done then he states well the new rules might say other wise...so what is he saying then?
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								|  Posted: 24-Feb-2007 11:08    Post subject: |     |  
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								| 	 		| Karagin wrote: |  	  	| 	 		| Sleeping Dragon wrote: |  	  	| ... (ECM and ECCM use is obvious, but it's still uncommon to see two ECMs on one unit... well the rules say it's not allowed - p. 136 BMR revised, but this may no longer be actual with new rules). |  ...
 I don't see that in his posting, I see him telling us that BMR-R says it can't be done then he states well the new rules might say other wise...so what is he saying then?
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 He mentioned ECCM (from MaxTech) but he also mentioned that BMR doesn't allow to mount 2 Guardian ECM (And MaxTech doesn't allow it either! It only calles for ECM or ECCM modus for a single Guardian ECM in a given unit.)
 
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 	he wants to say that you can even mount 2 Guardian ECM as long as you "fluff " the rules "away" 		| Sleeping Dragon wrote: |  	  	| Not bad, but the ECM suites would use some explanation ... |   _________________
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								|  Posted: 24-Feb-2007 18:50    Post subject: |     |  
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								| Fluffing it away would be great...but folks ignore fluff 99% of the time... _________________
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					| Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder
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								|  Posted: 25-Feb-2007 02:19    Post subject: |     |  
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								| At least Mordel's is a "fluff-heavy" environment!   Maybe you can convince your players too!
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								|  Posted: 25-Feb-2007 03:10    Post subject: |     |  
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								| Maybe that I should create an oracle with cryptic answers to all questions. With Rudel's (correct) explanations it would be a good source of money on BT stuff   
 I wonder why bother with fluff at all when noone reads it... well we read it, and it's pretty good
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