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This is based off of the open cockpit personal VTOL that has been in testing for quite some time. I figured that after 1100+ years its been perfected.
anyway let me know what you think.
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
* CUSTOM WEAPONS
Type/Model: Personal VTOL custom Whistler
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: V.T.O.L.
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 3.5 tons
Power Plant: 10 MaxLift Hover Engine Fusion
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor Type: Acbar 55 Standard
Armament:
2 Forward-1 Small Running Lights*
Manufacturer: FairChild Aeronautics
Location: Arc-Royal
Communications System: Johnston Q-Rotor 2
Targeting & Tracking System: N&D Handsfree
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==Overview:==
Originally intended for use in the private sector, the "Whistler" has seen extended combat missions. The Personal VTOL is a 1
person VTOL designed for low level transportation. Reaching up to 800 feet
altitude and capable of speeds up to 151 Km/h, the Personal VTOL or "Whistler"
as it is known allows people to commute to and from work and home quickely and
efficentely. A small Omni 10 MaxLift Hover fusion engine gives immense power
for the small craft.
The pilot sits/stands at the controls with a large view screen/windshield,
offering protection for the elements. A joystic and throtttle help to manuver
the craft through the air as well as control its speed. projected on to the
view screen is a simple and esy to use HUD, it gives air speed and altitude as
well. Built into the computer systems is a holo chip processor that takes holo
chip maps. It can store up to 6 maps at a time.
The single engine powers 4, 2 foot wide fans that are designed to give
maximum lift and speed to the small crft. Following a closk face the 4 fans
are located at the 1, 3, 9, and 11 o'clock facings, The 1 and 11 run to the
vectored thrusting nozzels and the 3 and 9 run to the back of the "Whistler",
giving the VTOL maximum thrust and lift for such a small unit. Screens cover
the intakes so nothing larger then small bugs can get in to the delicate blade
assembely. A reinforced internal structure gives the "Whistler" some
durability, it also helps to add enough weight to keep the vibrations down. A
helmet with built in communicator allows the pilot to keep incontact with
necessary people.
==Capabilities:==
Lightly armored the "Whistler" is more of a plesasure craft than anything
else. Though a few have been commissioned for special forces units. The unit
can act as a deep penetration / Reconnance unit with a high digree of sucess.
The 4 intakes mounted above the pilots head produce a enormus amount of thrust
for such a small VTOL. 2 of the ducts end in a Vector thrusting nozzle. This
allows the "Whistler" to to hover, move forward, and even move backwards with
astonishing agility. The windscreen is another unique piece of enginereeing,
running around and through the middle of the viewscreen is a channel that acts
as a wind duct that covers the windscreen in a small blanket of air. This is
warm wind channeled from the exhaust, that when activated can push rain and
sleet away from the windscreen, keeping the pilots view unobstructed. 3 small
storage lockers are located on the unit. These are used to hold anything from
brief cases and clothing to rifles and military supplies.
==Deployment==
Fairchild AeroNautics has sold the design through out the Inner Sphere, anyone
from busisness men, to race teams, to military units have purchased the craft
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Type/Model: Personal VTOL custom Whistler
Mass: 3.5 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 5 pts Reinforced 0 .70
Engine: 10 Fusion 0 .50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 .25
Cruise MP: 9
Flank MP: 14
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 .18
Crew: 1 Members 0 .00
Rotor Equipment: Main/Tail Rotors 0 .35
Armor Factor: 8 pts Standard 0 .50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 1 3
Left / Right Sides: 1 1/1
Rear: 1 1
Rotor: 1 2
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Small Running Light* Right 0 1 .25
1 Small Running Light* Left 0 1 .25
Cargo Bay Capacity Body 1 .10
Cargo Bay Capacity Body 1 .10
Cargo Bay Capacity Body 1 .30
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TOTALS: 0 5 3.48
Items & Tons Left: 0 .02
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 29,741 C-Bills
Battle Value: 8
Cost per BV: 3,717.57
Weapon Value: 0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 0; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 9V, Armor/Structure: 0 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: VA; Point Value: 0
Specials: tran0
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Karagin
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 10:35 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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It is a decent civilian vehicle. You may want to try making it via the Support Vehicle rules in the CEG.
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 11:30 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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Yeah, I am just hopeing that they make that a program at some point. I havent gotten the book yet so I havent seen the rules for it yet.
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Raven!
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 15:02 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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CEG?
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 15:08 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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On 2005-11-06 15:02, Raven! wrote:
CEG?
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One of the newer books.
Combat Equipment Guide. It has rules for support units, ie trucks and such, as well as new BA and Protos.
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 18:16 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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Sweet! BTW, great VTOL, good fluff!  i like it, and I want to start a racing team with one. LOL
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| Posted: 06-Nov-2005 22:30 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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http://www.engadget.com/entry/5844163416338363
It is based heavily off of this design. I went with a heavier design for stability and mine is a quad engine design. I have been working on a sketch for it, and when I get a design I am happy with I will post it here.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 03:06 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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I ´ve CE and will try to construct your VTOL.
Is 500 kg cargo necessary or could it be less?
Can it be of lower tech or should it be top 3060 tech?
By the way: what are "running lights" for?
I think it would be much smaller.
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 11:59 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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On 2005-11-08 03:06, Rudel Gurken wrote:
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Cool cant wait to see it! 
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Hmm not really but I guess it would need a second variant. one for civilian and one for military with more storage space. (as I see the military version being used for special forces and reconnance duty the trooper will need more storage capacity). I guess think of it as a trunk of a car. How much can it hold? But then you also need to think of what a special forces operative will need to bring with him/her to do thier job. Will it fit in a trunk? I mostly added that much to get the armor weight down.
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Ahh there could be the sticking point. A ice engine weights .23 tons more and costs 1.955 thousand c-bills less. It also requires a gas tank where as the fusion engine dosent. The ICE is going to run loudly where as the rusion is quiet. I would prefer to keep the fusion, as I see ICE engines completely innefficent and much more troublesome then the savings give you, if it was over 10K in cost savings I would consider it, but for less than 2K savings the fusion is the better choice.
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By the way: what are "running lights" for?
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The flashing lights that you see on airplanes. I actually should have named them landing lights. And that would have made them 2 high powered landing lights to illuminate the ground so the pilot can see what he is landing on.
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I think it would be much smaller.
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Yeah I agree. The problem with HMVee is it is kind of limited in what you can do with the smaller units.
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 21:35 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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I agree with this. Most programs are actually very limited in what they can offer. I like working by hand and changing rules and making my own game systems LOL
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 22:27 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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I hope that we can get a HM Combat Equipment Guide like the other outstanding HM programs. if not I may have to ask santa for CE for christmas.
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| Posted: 09-Nov-2005 02:35 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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Such standard equipment like position or landing lights are covered by the Chassis & Control weight!
They can be outfitted with a ejection seat for the pilot for 25 kg less cargo but the price will be x30 (!!!!) because such a seat costs 25000 C-Bills!
I´ve made them very light cause of the picture. If you need more cargo I can go up to 400 or 500 kg!
Combat Equipment, Support Vehicle
Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2-85F "Whistler"
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2060
Vessel Type: Small VTOL
Techlevel: E (Advanced: Star League)
Availability: D (Rare)
Legality: C (Licensed)
Mass: 300 kg
Engine System: Fusion
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Armor Type: BAR 2
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Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2-85F "Whistler"
Mass: 300 kg
Equipment: Location, Items, Mass
Chassis & Control (Ultra Light): - ; - ; 26 kg
Engine & Transmission (Fusion): - ; - ; 39 kg
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Armor (BAR2, 5 total armor pts): - ; - ; 60 kg
Location:Structure/Armor Pts
Front: 1 / 1
Right: 1 / 1
Left: 1 / 1
Rear: 1 / 1
Equipment:
Cargo: Body ; 1 ; 100 kg
Seat (Pilot): Body ; - ; 75 kg
Items / Tons left: 4 / 0
Crew and Passengers(1 total):
1 Base Crew
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 846 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5
Cost per BV: 169
Now follows a two seater variant:
Combat Equipment, Support Vehicle
Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2B-85F "Whistler"
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2060
Vessel Type: Small VTOL
Techlevel: E (Advanced: Star League)
Availability: D (Rare)
Legality: C (Licensed)
Mass: 300 kg
Engine System: Fusion
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Armor Type: BAR 2
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Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2B-85F "Whistler"
Mass: 300 kg
Equipment: Location, Items, Mass
Chassis & Control (Ultra Light): - ; - ; 26 kg
Engine & Transmission (Fusion): - ; - ; 39 kg
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Armor (BAR2, 5 total armor pts): - ; - ; 60 kg
Location:Structure/Armor Pts
Front: 1 / 1
Right: 1 / 1
Left: 1 / 1
Rear: 1 / 1
Equipment:
Cargo: Body ; 1 ; 25 kg
Seat (Pilot): Body ; - ; 75 kg
Seat (Passenger): Body ; - ; 75 kg
Items / Tons left: 4 / 0
Crew and Passengers(2 total):
1 Base Crew
1 Passenger
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 947 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5
Cost per BV: 189
And now follows a civil ICE variant:
Combat Equipment, Support Vehicle
Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2-85C "Whistler"
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2060
Vessel Type: Small VTOL
Techlevel: E (Advanced: Star League)
Availability: C (Uncommon)
Legality: C (Licensed)
Mass: 300 kg
Engine System: ICE
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Armor Type: BAR 2
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Class/Model/Name: Fairchild AeroNautics MC2-85C "Whistler"
Mass: 300 kg
Equipment: Location, Items, Mass
Chassis & Control : - ; - ; 51 kg
Engine & Transmission (ICE): - ; - ; 67 kg
Cruise Speed: 9
Flank Speed: 14
Fuel (1044 km range): - ; - ; 7 kg
Armor (BAR2, 5 total armor pts): - ; - ; 60 kg
Location:Structure/Armor Pts
Front: 1 / 1
Right: 1 / 1
Left: 1 / 1
Rear: 1 / 1
Equipment:
Cargo: Body ; 1 ; 40 kg
Seat (Pilot): Body ; - ; 75 kg
Items / Tons left: 4 / 0
Crew and Passengers(1 total):
1 Base Crew
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 821 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5
Cost per BV: 164
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| Posted: 09-Nov-2005 14:23 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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I like them very very much! Nice work. I can see selling these for upwards of 15K c-bills (hey we gots to make a profit).
I guess my only concern is the cargo space. How much can you fit into 100KG of space?
Seriously I really dont know?
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| Posted: 09-Nov-2005 14:32 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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One man (1.8m) would weight some 80 kg, so one soldier with 20kg of equipment. I think that it would depend on the size of cargo bay (otherwise the cargo would be fixed to the VTOL from the outside).
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| Posted: 10-Nov-2005 02:06 Post subject: RE: Whistler The personal VTOL. |
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A soldier can carry about 50 kg equipment into battle and thats hard!
So a single special force trooper will get lots of items for 100 kg!
You can even carry a 100 kg support vehicle in this 300 kg support vehicle!!!!
(Maybe a off-road motorbike!)
I think the civil version will have enough cargo for men (or women of course! ) flying to work.
By the way: have you seen the other end support vehicle? The 70,000 ton Yamato seagoing battleship? 
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