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PostPosted: 21-Jul-2005 00:44    Post subject: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

A bit off topic, but I thought this would be of interest.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/uk/uksh-d/drednt9.htm

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PostPosted: 22-Jul-2005 13:14    Post subject: RE: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oh god...into history mode....

The Dreadnaught was the first all metal battleship built in the 1900s. When Germany, America, and all other nations saw the effectiveness of the H.M.S. Dreadnaught, they all built their own heavy battleships and metal warships. In effect, it was the first mass produced all metal warship.

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PostPosted: 22-Jul-2005 15:34    Post subject: RE: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

Of course, the Americans were no strangers to metal-armoured warships, having pounded themselves with various ironclads during the 1860s.

As an interesting note, the Moniter and Merrimac (or Virginia, as it were) were not the first ironclads, just the first to clash. The first was the USS St Loius.

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PostPosted: 22-Jul-2005 16:11    Post subject: RE: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ironclad doesn't necessarily mean a vessel of iron construction, only that it has iron armor. The French and English were using these even before the US civil war.

The US was first to design ironclads with gun turrets, though.

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PostPosted: 22-Jul-2005 18:18    Post subject: RE: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

It was also the first warships of its period to place its main cannons into turrets the like of todays warships.

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PostPosted: 24-Jul-2005 08:46    Post subject: RE: The Dreadnaught Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2005-07-22 18:18, Vagabond wrote:
It was also the first warships of its period to place its main cannons into turrets the like of todays warships.



Umm...the Dreadnought, AFAIK, was neither the first warship to place the main cannons in turrets (pre-dreadnought battleships had been doing that since the 1800's...it's just that the Dreadnought had more of them)...nor was it the first "all-metal" warship (again, pre-dreadnought battleships had been built this way since at least the 1880's or earlier)...

The Dreadnought's claims to fame were to be the first battleship to mount so many large guns of the same caliber on one vessel (although the South Carolina-class battleships, with their eight 12 inch guns in 4 turrets (two turrets of which were in elevated, super-firing, posititions fore and aft, giving her the same broadside potential of the Dreadnought's 10 guns) were actually laid down first, but took longer to build...the Japanese Setsuna-class battleships were also similar, in that they had 12 (IIRC) 12 inch guns, but 8 of them were of a different caliber (i.e., length) than the other 4, thus had a different performance...), had oil-fired turbine engines rather than reciprocating ones, and was extremely fast to build on the ways (as she was built from pre-manufactured, standardized steel plates, rather than taking the haphazard various sections from which previous battleships had been made...also, part of her guns were stripped from 2 pre-dreadnought battleships then under construction)...)...

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