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Karagin
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PostPosted: 06-May-2005 16:16    Post subject: Design Challenge Reply to topic Reply with quote

Okay here is something you folks can give a try, take the following and build how YOU think it should be in BT...

So feel free to use what ever tech you feel let you make this vehicle.

Here is the info:

T29 heavy tank 1945 with a 105mm T5E2 gun (ammo loaded separately)
max armor was 279mm on gun mantlet 102/54 cast glacis
weighed 62 tonnes
770hp Ford GAC engine 35km/h max speed

Okay let's see the ideas!


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Sleeping Dragon
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PostPosted: 07-May-2005 07:15    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Reply to topic Reply with quote

Level 1 variant

T29 Heavy Tank
IS heavy tracked vehicle level 1
Tonnage: 62t
Internal Structure: 6.5t
Engine: 190 Ford GAC I. C. E. 15t
MP: 3/5
Heat Sinks: 0t
Control Equipment: 3.5t
Power Amplifier: 0t
Turret: 1.5t
Armor: standard 312 19.5t
Armor
Front: 70
R/L Side: 60/60
Rear: 52
Turret: 70
Weapons and Ammo Location Tonnage
AC/10 turret 12t
MG turret 0.5t
AC/10 (30) body 3t
MG (100) body 0.5t

low tech variant

T29 Heavy Tank
IS heavy tracked vehicle level 3
Tonnage: 62t
Internal Structure: 6.5t
Engine: 190 low-tech Ford GAC I. C. E. 16t
MP: 3/5
Heat Sinks: 0t
Control Equipment: 3.5t
Power Amplifier: 0t
Turret: 2t
Armor: low-tech (10AP/t) 150 15t
Armor
Front: 40
R/L Side: 25/25
Rear: 20
Turret: 40
Weapons and Ammo Location Tonnage
Sniper (snub-nosed) Turret 15t
MG turret 0.5t
Sniper (snub-nosed) (30) body 3t
MG (100) body 0.5t

This variant is just loosely based on rules. I thought, that steel plates won't offer as strong protection as modern Battle Tech armor, engine from 1945 will be much more inefficient(it is even if compared to modern gas turbines used on tanks today) and Snub-nosed artillery gun represents gun profiles better than short-ranged AC. Armor is weak, but which tank could withstand many hits from heavy guns?

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Delta
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PostPosted: 07-May-2005 10:04    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heres a BattleTech replication with new technologies, if thats what your asking. I actually like it.





BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
THB Weapons

Type/Model: T-29 MBT
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design

Mass: 65 tons
Power Plant: 195 Nissan Fusion
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 HV AC/10 (THB)
4 Machine Guns
4 Medium Lasers
7 Grenade Launchers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: T-29 MBT
Mass: 65 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 35 pts Standard 0 6.50
Engine: 195 Fusion 0 8.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 4.00
Cruise MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 12 Single 0 2.00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.25
Crew: 5 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.40
Armor Factor: 197 pts Standard 0 12.31

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 7 58
Left / Right Sides: 7 40/40
Rear: 7 27
Turret: 7 32

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 HV AC/10 (THB) Turret 0 24 2 17.00
4 Machine Guns Front 0 200 5 3.00
2 Medium Lasers Front 6 2 2.00
2 Grenade Launchers Front 0 2 1.00
1 Medium Laser Left 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser Right 3 1 1.00
1 Grenade Launcher Rear 0 1 .50
2 Grenade Launchers Right 0 2 1.00
2 Grenade Launchers Left 0 2 1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 12 18 64.96
Items & Tons Left: 0 .04

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,933,040 C-Bills
Battle Value: 635
Cost per BV: 4,618.96
Weapon Value: 761 / 761 (Ratio = 1.20 / 1.20)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 3T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 8
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 6

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StarRaven
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PostPosted: 07-May-2005 16:06    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Reply to topic Reply with quote

          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                      UK Weapons

Type/Model:    T29 
Tech:          Mixed Tech  /  3060
Config:        Tracked Vehicle
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          60 tons
Power Plant:   120 I.C.E. (IS)
Cruise Speed:  21.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  1 Rotary AC/10 (UK)(C)
  3 Machine Guns(IS)
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    T29 
Mass:          60 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  30 pts Reinforced             0     12.00
Engine:        120 I.C.E.                    0      8.00
    Cruise MP:   2
     Flank MP:   3
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      3.00
Crew: 4 Members                              0       .00
Turret Equipment:                            0      1.50
Armor Factor:  200 pts Standard (IS)         0     12.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     6         60 
   Left / Right Sides:        6      40/40 
   Rear:                      6         27 
   Turret:                    6         33 

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Rotary AC/10 (UK)(C)   Turret   0   70     2     21.00
1 Machine Gun  (IS)      Turret   0  100     2      1.00
1 Machine Gun  (IS)      Turret   0          1       .50
1 Machine Gun  (IS)      Front    0          1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          6     60.00
Items & Tons Left:                          11       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,776,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,088
Cost per BV:       1,632.35
Weapon Value:      729 / 729 (Ratio = .67 / .67)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 37;  MRDmg = 25;  LRDmg = 10
BattleForce2:      MP: 2T,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/4/4,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GH;  Point Value: 11


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