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StarRaven
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What do you get when you cross a Demolisher with an Alacorn?
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Demolishacorn
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 190 tons
Power Plant: 380 GM XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 21.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32.4 km/h
Armor Type: Hvy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
3 Gauss Rifles
2 LB 20-X ACs
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Demolishacorn
Mass: 190 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 95 pts Standard 0 38.00
Engine: 380 XL Fusion 2 20.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 10.50
Cruise MP: 2
Flank MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 9.50
Crew: 13 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 7.50
Armor Factor: 367 pts Hvy Ferro-Fibrous 3 18.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 19 68
Front L / R Sides: 19 50/50
Rear L / R Sides: 19 50/50
Rear: 19 33
Turret: 19 66
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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3 Gauss Rifles Turret 0 48 4 51.00
2 LB 20-X ACs Turret 0 30 3 34.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 1 .50
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TOTALS: 0 13 190.00
Items & Tons Left: 30 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 79,246,778 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,767
Cost per BV: 44,848.2
Weapon Value: 2,875 / 2,875 (Ratio = 1.63 / 1.63)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 73; MRDmg = 46; LRDmg = 21
BattleForce2: MP: 2T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 15
Damage PB/M/L: 7/9/5, Overheat: 0
Class: GA; Point Value: 18
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 05:38 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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In response, the only thing I can say is this:
I believe that about sums up anyone's reaction to seeing this thing lumbering across the battlefield.
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-03-29 05:40 ]
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Oafman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 07:14 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Lumbering? It does not move fast enough to lumber. Galumphing maybe. 
Might as well build a fortress just park this thing in front.
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 07:24 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Use it as a hidden unit. Anyone stumbling on it will be very, very sorry. 
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Karagin
Imperial Karagin Army
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 07:55 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Can we say target?
Nice, but given that BT has the vehilce over 100 tons moving slower then molases in January, leave you with a lot of firepower and armor, but no way to do much with it. Hell you might as well scrap the offensive weapons and go with missile or artillery and just keep the thing way back behind your lines.
Now if they allowed for better speeds like say 4-6 or so then capped the speed at the 195/200 ton mark that would be even better, but right now vehicles lose out if they aren't moving fast, given the current level 2 to hit chart for them, and while the level 3 (Max Tech) chart helps, it still doesn't prevent the vehicles from dying with in five turns...that is better then the old average of three turns but given that still isn't good for use of vehicles. Not sure what would be, but anything is better then the current system on vehicles and criticals and hits and what happens. But that is a whole other rant and one that has been beat to death over and over and over again.
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 08:09 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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I just noticed something: the pricetag.
You could buy TWO COMPANIES of JR7-D Jenners for the price of ONE Demolishacorn. Can you say "Palace Guard"?
Of course, none of this really matters, because this design is just for fun, right? 
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-03-29 08:10 ]
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 10:55 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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On 2005-03-29 08:09, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
I just noticed something: the pricetag.
You could buy TWO COMPANIES of JR7-D Jenners for the price of ONE Demolishacorn. Can you say "Palace Guard"?
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Yes. The size cost multiplier for something this heavy is truly insane. (cost * 2.53)
Forget the Jenners. You could almost buy two lances of assault 'Mechs for the price of this thing.
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Of course, none of this really matters, because this design is just for fun, right?
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Precisely. Actually, I looked at your 200 ton artillery tank, and realized that I'd never made a super heavy tank. Well, that just had to be fixed.
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Oafman
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 13:36 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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This would be something to surprise your players with if you are feeling very evil one day.
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 14:14 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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since these are lvl 3 arent the rules for vehicle damage changed giveing vehicles a longer life on the battle field? I have always seen the Super heavy tanks as units that get 3 to 7 medium and light vehicle and mech mixes, That way the enemy cant just concintrate on the SH. Or they can try but at a price.
I think I was really bored on day and made 4 or 5 designs that are super heavys all ment to work together, With good tactics there wasnt much that would get to them. somethign like 12 gauss rifles whould destroy most anything before ti can do to much damage.
Just out of curiosity though. IF and that is a big IF you were going to field these would you put a GREEN crew in it? Or go veteran to elite? If its me the cost alone I think requires a veteran crew at the very least.
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 14:21 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Elite. The very best of the very best. Assuming, of course, that you can give up the assault lances you would otherwise be able to buy.
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 15:55 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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On 2005-03-29 14:14, Stinger wrote:
Just out of curiosity though. IF and that is a big IF you were going to field these would you put a GREEN crew in it? Or go veteran to elite? If its me the cost alone I think requires a veteran crew at the very least.
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Veteran. This thing is too expensive for a green crew. But I'd put the elite crews in heavy tanks that can't be outrun as easily.
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Blackhand
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 16:04 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Well the first crew I put in it would be elite, followed by 2 veteran, and a green just to fill all the seats. lol.
Oh my lord can you opulant. Marik and Steiner are the only houses who;'d even contemplate this thing:)
Good work.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 16:21 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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Amazing that it can fire every turn with now heat issues as well.
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Erenon
Blighted Sun Battalion
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 18:48 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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That's one advantage of vehicles over Mechs... course they are not very good with energy weapons..
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Seraph
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| Posted: 29-Mar-2005 19:18 Post subject: RE: Demolishacorn |
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It's a design requirement of vehicles, they must be able to fire everything and gain no heat. Hey ralgith, how'd you like if I use one of these against you next time we tangle?
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