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					mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 16:36    Post subject: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								I've listed every 'mech in the 3025 book with a ground speed of at least 7/11 here.  This is the class of 'mechs I generally think of as the light cavalry of my force.  In battle, they are either reconnaissance, or in a stand-up fight I try and send them around my enemy's flank and disrupt their main force.  With a speed rivaling a hovercraft's and probably at least twice a hovercraft's survivability and manuverability even one or two of these 'mechs can bring down a heavy with a bit of luck and good timing, especially if your target is also engaged to it's front.  
 
 Of the class my personal favorites are the Locust and the Assassin, but there are a lot of stand-out designs in this class; the Jenner and Spider also old favorites, but the Assassin's LRMs sets it above them in terms of flexibility.  They do have a big downside though; they're not very reliable machines, and their cockpit are notoriously cramped, and get very hot during battle.  The Locust is light, cheap, and I've killed heavy 'mechs with them   
 
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					Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 16:44    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								I'd have to go with a JR7-F Jenner. If it hits with all four Medium Lasers, most 'mechs are going to have a VERY bad day. Especially if the lasers hit in the rear arc. _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
 
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					mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 16:50    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								Jenner's are nice...I particularly like how you can wind up it's heat curve if you have to.  I've definitely had rounds while I ran my Jenner and fired with all four medium lasers and the SRM-4.  It's a risk, but if you're lucky you can use your speed and jump jets to get out of trouble if that doesn't kill your opponent.  
 
 It's major weakness is it's very light armor; a PPC or AC/10 can shear an arm right off.  I've seen lots of Jenners get torn apart.  
 
 Just thought up this idea for a Jenner...let me know what you think.  
 
                BattleMech Technical Readout
 
 Type/Model:    Jenner JR7-L
 Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
 Config:        Biped BattleMech
 Rules:         Level 1, Modified design
 
 Mass:          35 tons
 Chassis:       Diplan Scout-A Standard
 Power Plant:   245 Magna Fusion
 Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
 Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
 Jump Jets:     5 Smithson Lifters Standard Jump Jets
 Jump Capacity: 150 meters
 Armor Type:    Starshield Standard
 Armament:      
   4 Medium Lasers
   1 LRM 5
 Manufacturer:  Diplan Mechyards
   Location:    Ozawa
 Communications System:  Dawson III
 Targeting & Tracking System:  Bk-309
 
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 ==Overview:==
     The Jenner is a relatively modern design, first constructed in 2784 by
 Diplan Mechyards on Ozawa, under contract to House Kurita.  It was designed as
 a fast, hit-and-run guerilla fighter.  With a maximum speed of 118.8
 kilometers per hour and a jump capacity of 150 meters, it was hoped that this
 'Mech would form the foundation for a new, highly mobile lance.
     The original Jenners mounted two Agra 27C medium lasers and a Diplan HD
 large laser on a central turret, but this configuration could easily be
 disarmed by a direct hit to the turret.  The medium lasers' targeting system
 was also plagued with problems.  However, because the chassis and mobility
 sub-systems performed well in trials, designers decided to refit the weapons
 systems instead of scrapping the whole design.  The standard ten heat sinks
 allowed the 'Mech to move swiftly and fire without overheating.
     The Jenner was then modified to its current configuration, mounting four
 Argra 3L medium lasers, two per side, on directionally variable mountings. 
 The Argra 3L replaced the older 27C because it had a better spectral purity
 and a more rugged focal system.
     The Thunderstroke SRM-4 was installed after additional testing showed the
 need for increased short-range firepower.  The resulting 'Mech was the pride
 of Kurita forces.  Designed and built at home, it was the optimum mix of
 speed, jump capacity, and firepower.
 
 ==Capabilities:==
     Among the fastest 'Mechs around, the Jenner packs good firepower at close
 range.  Its optimum range is 30 to 90 meters, and its speed and jump
 capability make it hard to hit.  The Jenner can move in quickly, make its
 attack, and retreat before it can be seriously damaged.
     Because the Argra 3L medium lasers are the Jenner's main armament, the
 'Mech can operate for long periods without running out of ammunition.  During
 long engagements or on deep raids, the 25 reloads available to the
 Thunderstroke SRM-4 could run out, and so this missile launcher is mostly used
 for the coup de grace or to add extra hitting power in a difficult moment.
     Although the Jenner was designed as a close-range fighter, it lacks arms
 for punching and other physical attacks.  The Jenner's designers felt that
 because of the 'Mech's low tonnage, it would not be able to make efficient
 physical attacks.  The Jenner has done well without them, except in
 grab-and-run raids made on enemy supply depots.  During these, it lays down
 covering fire to allow 'Mechs with hands to gather what they can.
 
 ==Battle History:==
     When Diplan Mechyards was completing the first Jenners in September 2784,
 tensions were running high.  War seemed inevitable, more a question of when
 than of if.  Minoru Kurita took a personal interest in the Jenner, calling it
 the "first in a new line", and he ordered further design and development on
 heavier 'Mechs with the Jenner's mobility.
     It was only fitting that Minoru Kurita's favored 'Mech should avenge his
 assassination.  Waves of Jenners and other fast 'Mechs entered the cities to
 carry out Jinjiro Kurita's directive to "bathe accursed Kentares in blood". 
 The Jenner earned itself a place as the standard light warhorse of the
 Draconis Combine.
     Despite the outbreak of the First Succession War, construction continued
 at Diplan until 2815, when a shortage of raw materials brought the assembly
 lines to a halt.  However, Diplan continued to produce its 'Mech chassis.
     In 2832, production of Jenners resumed on Ozawa, and some 3,000 chassis
 where shipped to a Diplan subsidiary on Luthien for final fittings and
 assembly.  Although heavily damage by naval bombardment, the Diplan Luthien
 Corporation retooled its remaining plants for Jenner assembly.  By 2830,
 Diplan of Ozawa and Diplan Luthien had a combined annual output of 1350
 Jenners.
     Throughout the Second Succession War, the Jenner continues the infamous
 tradition begun during the Kentares Massacre.  Used singly or in groups, the
 Jenner is often sent behind enemy lines to create confusion and havoc.  It was
 during these terror raids that the other Houses first captured Jenners.
     By 2840, the Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth both had a number
 of operational Jenners.  By 2845, the Jenner was used by all the Successor
 States, although it continues to be primarily a Kurita 'Mech.
     In 2847, elements of the Davion Heavy Guards, supplied with Jenners
 painted in Draconis Combine colors, led a lightning strike against Ozawa,
 gutting the Diplan Mechyards.  One year later, an unexplained explosion
 destroyed the remaining assembly plant on Luthien, and Jenner production
 ceased.
     Realizing that manufacture of the Jenner was now impossible and yet
 critically short of 'Mechs, Jinjiro Kurita ordered the Jenners to replace
 light 'Mechs lost in battle.  The Jenner's infamy faded as its individuality
 was absorbed among the various lancemates.
     Despite its fall in status, the Jenner is still a favorite 'Mech of the
 Combine forces, and it is the most popular 'Mech in Kurita recon and light
 attack lances.  Occasionally, it is still used as a raider, though this is
 becoming more and more rare.
 
 ==Variants:==
     None of the original prototype Jenners remains, but some without the
 Thunderstroke SRM-4 still survive.  These are identical to the standard
 Jenner, but are more heavily armored.
 
 ==Notable 'Mechs & MechWarriors:==
 Sergeant James Green
     Green was famous as the man who led the death squads into the capitol of
 Kentares.  Little is known about him except that he was fanatically loyal to
 Kurita.  In memory of the Kentares Massacre, he painted his Jenner black and
 red.  His 'Mech is still in service today, piloted by his direct descendant,
 Hugo Green.
 
 MechWarrior Karl Trochenski
     Karl captured the first operational Jenner for the Federated Suns in 2837.
   The duel left Trochenski's Ostsol a smoldering wreck, and he claimed the
 less-damaged Jenner as a war prize.  Both he and his new 'Mech were lost soon
 after in a skirmish on Benet III.
 
 MechWarrior Grace Shiro
     A member of the Rasalhague Regulars, Grace is the youngest of five
 siblings in the service of House Kurita.  She is known as a daring and skilled
 Mechwarrior, fond of hunting larger 'Mechs.  Both she and her 'Mech have been
 seriously wounded several times, but miraculously both have survived.  This
 has earned her the nickname "Cat", though few would bet on how many lives she
 has left.
 
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 Type/Model:    Jenner JR7-L
 Mass:          35 tons
 
 Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
 Int. Struct.:  58 pts Standard               0      3.50
 Engine:        245 Fusion                    6     12.00
    Walking MP:   7
    Running MP:  11
    Jumping MP:   5
 Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    1       .00
  (Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD)
 Gyro:                                        4      3.00
 Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
 Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
 Armor Factor:   64 pts Standard              0      4.00
 
                           Internal    Armor
                           Structure   Value
    Head:                      3          7      
    Center Torso:             11         10      
    Center Torso (Rear):                  3      
    L/R Side Torso:            8        8/8      
    L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
    L/R Arm:                   6        4/4      
    L/R Leg:                   8        6/6      
 
 Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
 --------------------------------------------------------
 2 Medium Lasers          RA      6           2      2.00
 2 Medium Lasers          LA      6           2      2.00
 1 LRM 5                  CT      2   24      2      3.00
   (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
 5 Standard Jump Jets:                        5      2.50
  (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT)
 --------------------------------------------------------
 TOTALS:                         14          39     35.00
 Crits & Tons Left:                          39       .00
 
 Calculated Factors:
 Total Cost:        3,161,925 C-Bills
 Battle Value:      697
 Cost per BV:       4,536.48
 Weapon Value:      304 / 304 (Ratio = .44 / .44)
 Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 12;  MRDmg = 4;  LRDmg = 1
 BattleForce2:      MP: 7,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                    Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 1
                    Class: ML;  Point Value: 7
 
 
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					Seraph Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Major
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 17:14    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								Tough choice.
 I picked the Assassin. Mainly because of it's speed plus damage potential. It's jumping speed is what made me pick it really. I wanted a fast strike mech that could maintain high rates of speed even over bad terrrain. The Jenner's drop off in that catagory made it unsuitable. The Cicada and Locust cannot jump at all and the Spider and Ostscout, to my mind, hasn't the necessary armaments to qualify.  _________________ If ignorance is bliss, then why are you so miserable?
								
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					Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 17:30    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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 Tough choice.
 I picked the Assassin. Mainly because of it's speed plus damage potential. It's jumping speed is what made me pick it really. I wanted a fast strike mech that could maintain high rates of speed even over bad terrrain. The Jenner's drop off in that catagory made it unsuitable. The Cicada and Locust cannot jump at all and the Spider and Ostscout, to my mind, hasn't the necessary armaments to qualify. 
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 Strange. I think the Assassin lacks the necessary armament to qualify.    
 
 Jenners all the way. Or Locusts if I can't get my first choice.
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					mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 17:36    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								A Lyran who likes Jenner's...odd.  
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					Moonlapse Vertigo Clan Goliath Scorpion Star Captain
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 17:46    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								| Jenner as well. It requires heat management, but it can hit hard for a light then fade away to cool down.
								
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					mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 24-Feb-2005 18:03    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								and to lick it's wounds...
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					jymset Scavenger in pursuit of LosTech
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 02:44    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								I voted the Jenner as well. I don't know, I would like to introduce another category: scout 'mechs. Strike 'mech sounds like a different thing to me. Jenner is a strike 'mech. The others are scout 'mechs.
 
 I personally would not fix the strike 'mech role to a speed of 7/11. I'd consider the Javelin a strike 'mech. They should mount JJ (being able to pop up suddenly) and heavier armament than scout 'mechs.
 
 As far as scout 'mechs go, I very much prefer the Assassin, too.
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					Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 03:11    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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 What's so odd? If you can't pick anything with armor you pick something with big guns. Or at least many guns.    
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					Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Sergeant
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 03:42    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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 What's so odd? If you can't pick anything with armor you pick something with big guns. Or at least many guns.    
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 He's got a point..
 I'll go for the assassin though. It's not quite as potent as the Jenner but it isn't as fragile either.
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					mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 07:26    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								The Assassin can also set up a screen of LRMs; if it runs into something like a Javelin or a Commando, it doesn't even have to close to a range where the enemy can return fire...even though the LRM-5 is a light weapon, with some patience it can kill or disable other lights.  
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					Steel-Scorpion Steel Scorpion Mercs. Mercenary General
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 08:11    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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 The Assassin can also set up a screen of LRM's; if it runs into something like a Javelin or a Commando, it doesn't even have to close to a range where the enemy can return fire...even though the LRM-5 is a light weapon, with some patience it can kill or disable other lights.  
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 Quite a good point mud, although guerrilla tactics are often disdained upon, unless no other option is available. LRM-5's are good for Scout and Harassment Mech(s) with mediocre pilots; and for Mechs that require a long range deturant.
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					Oafman Draconis Combine Tai-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 25-Feb-2005 09:09    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								As a long time Combine player I of course have to go with the Jenner.  It has the speed to get in close and manuever where the enemy does not want you.  Then alpha strike and really burn them up.  When I first started playing I started with a Jenner and pretty much kept with it for years.
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								 Posted: 26-Feb-2005 22:43    Post subject: RE: Level One Fast Strike 'Mechs | 
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								I went Jenner but I have one caveat with that, you want the F not the D the D is a deathtrap with thin armour and ammo that can be easily torched off ,the F on the other hand is just plain NASTY its biggest weakness is it does tend to run warm
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