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chihawk
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 Posted: 17-Oct-2003 22:34 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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On 2003-10-17 20:51, MEX wrote:
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YES, it IS ! 
Actually i only wanted to tell you that you have forgotten the word "Classic" in your previous posting 
Of corse MW: DA isnt CBT, but like CBT it is BT 
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I didn't forget anything, MWDA is Mechwarrior, CBT is Battletech.
I know you have a hard time comprehending that, but that's how it is, and that is how it was always been.
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| Posted: 18-Oct-2003 14:22 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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On 2003-10-17 22:33, chihawk wrote:
MWDA belongs in General Gaming, the CCG belongs in the CCG forum...the rest belongs in General Discussion.
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Seems to me that MWDA has just as much in common with CBT rules as BattleForce...in fact, it has more relation to it if you play CBT using miniature rules and terrain instead of a hex map...MWDA figures have a set amount of inches (hexes) they can move per turn, they have weapon facings, their weapons have min and max ranges, you have movement types with certain movement types unable to handle certain terrain, you have to roll dice to determine if you hit your target, and base your roll on an attack versus defense equation (much like having to base it off of a gunnery skill versus a targeting penalty), etc....seems to me that the game is even more similar to CBT than BattleForce was...then, you should also factor in how many create a MechWarrior, etc. using MechWarrior RPG rules and then use them in the CBT game with their MW stats determining their piloting and gunnery...
So, please spell out for me EXACTLY how MWDA belongs in General Gaming and BattleForce belongs in the General Discussion forum...I ask that you give me a counterpoint explaining the difference between the two based on what I have said above...
If you want to place the game in General Gaming, fine...but don't use the excuse that:
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MWDA is a game that is played with the Battletech game universe and it is not CBT as it shares no game mechanics at all with the board game, which is what this board is for. As such MWDA goes in "General Gaming".
AeroTech (including AT2 and BattleSpace) and Battletroops are additions to CBT to be used in conjunction with it and would be discussed in General Discussion as they are meant to be used with the board game
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especially after you say that BattleForce does belong in the General Discussion board...BattleForce shares even LESS game mechanics with CBT, and really can't be used in conjunction with CBT...so, either both BattleForce and MWDA belong in the General Gaming board, or just admit that you are saying that Mordel's doesn't condone MWDA as BattleTech...
Personally, I say that if you can give the card game, a game that was never really all that popular from what I see, 3 forums, you could at least be bothered to give MWDA it's own forum and a chance to stand on its own...
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chihawk
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| Posted: 18-Oct-2003 23:00 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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The card game has it's own forum as it's related to the deckbuilder that Mordel has developed.
MW:DA isn't in any way game mechanically related to CBT so it goes in "General gaming".
I think that ends this discussion, don't you?
[ This Message was edited by: chihawk on 2003-10-18 23:01 ]
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| Posted: 18-Oct-2003 23:43 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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On 2003-10-18 23:00, chihawk wrote:
MW:DA isn't in any way game mechanically related to CBT so it goes in "General gaming".
I think that ends this discussion, don't you?
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Whatever chihawk...it's Mordel's board...let him do with it as he will...even if I don't think it's right...
I will simply hold my opinions to myself on the matter from now on...
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chihawk
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| Posted: 19-Oct-2003 00:08 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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Whatever chihawk...it's Mordel's board...let him do with it as he will...even if I don't think it's right...
I will simply hold my opinions to myself on the matter from now on...
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All of the products you have mentioned are supplements to CBT. They are meant to be used in conjunction with CBT even if they can be played seperately.
MW:DA is totally unrelated to CBT excepting that they share a common in-game timeline.
I'm sorry you fail to see the obvious difference.
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| Posted: 19-Oct-2003 00:29 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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I had a rather lengthy PMail written up to you, but it's not worth it...
Suffice it to say that I totally disagree with what you have stated here, and leave it at that...
And I'm sorry that you seem to fail to see my position on the matter...
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chihawk
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| Posted: 19-Oct-2003 00:39 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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I see your position, and it is incorrect.
Compare the differences between CBT and MW:DA with the 2nd edition AD&D and D&D 3.5...completely different games set in the same game world.
Just as a discussion about 3.5 would be off topic for a board devoted to 2nd edition AD&D, MW:DA is off topic for this board. Mordel has set up a forum for talking about games that are not CBT, and as such any game not being CBT, which fits what MW:DA is, goes there.
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| Posted: 19-Oct-2003 08:10 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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MWDA belongs in General Gaming, the CCG belongs in the CCG forum...the rest belongs in General Discussion. |
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Seems to me that MWDA has just as much in common with CBT rules as BattleForce...
...seems to me that the game is even more similar to CBT than BattleForce was...then, you should also factor in how many create a MechWarrior, etc. using MechWarrior RPG rules and then use them in the CBT game with their MW stats determining their piloting and gunnery...
So, please spell out for me EXACTLY how MWDA belongs in General Gaming and BattleForce belongs in the General Discussion forum...I ask that you give me a counterpoint explaining the difference between the two based on what I have said above...
If you want to place the game in General Gaming, fine...but don't use the excuse that:
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especially after you say that BattleForce does belong in the General Discussion board...BattleForce shares even LESS game mechanics with CBT, and really can't be used in conjunction with CBT...so, either both BattleForce and MWDA belong in the General Gaming board, or just admit that you are saying that Mordel's doesn't condone MWDA as BattleTech...
Personally, I say that if you can give the card game, a game that was never really all that popular from what I see, 3 forums, you could at least be bothered to give MWDA it's own forum and a chance to stand on its own... |
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Hi Ruger,
finaly i have found someone who understands me, at least to some degree
I have no problems with MW: DA and BT TCG not beeing placed in the "Mordel's Bar and Grill Forum Index » Classic BattleTech Forums » General Discussion" forum 
I agree that BattleForce related stuff should be moved into the "Mordel's Bar and Grill Forum Index » Non-Classic BattleTech Forums » General Gaming" forum too
I dont need a seperate forum for MW: DA on Mordels site, as there are already forums at WizKids and FanPro sites that are made especially for MW: DA players which are much more frequented than Mordels entire site
The BT TCG game has seperate forums because of the Deck Builder program, which is made by Mordel and is the best piece of software i know to keep track of your BT TCG collection 
What really ticks me off is that, although he should have learned it better in the meantime, chihawks continues to post that MW: DA is not BT ! 
Of course MW: DA isnt CBT, but as BT is more than just CBT, i feel insulted whenever some spoiled brat tries to make the game he is playing in the huge BT universe look like it is the only game that is BT. This behavior is typical for religious groups like the Word of Blake, and can lead to discrimination of others which dont share the view of these intolerant INhumans 
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chihawk
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| Posted: 19-Oct-2003 09:24 Post subject: RE: So, has anyone else... |
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On 2003-10-19 08:10, MEX wrote:
What really ticks me off is that, although he should have learned it better in the meantime, chihawks continues to post that MW: DA is not BT !
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I post it because it is not.
CBT and it's related games are Battletech. MW:DA is Mechwarrior, a totally unrelated game to CBT.
Now this is the end of this topic, if you have more to say you're welcome to whine to Mordel about it and he can deal with you.
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