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PostPosted: 18-Nov-2017 05:43    Post subject: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hi all,

just wanting the general opinion on the LAC/2. Although, yes, the NAIS did make the LAC lighter they also reduced its range.

So, what do you think: is the LAC/2 still a peashooter or just a straw?
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PostPosted: 18-Nov-2017 10:52    Post subject: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

LAC/2 > ac/2 IN MY OPINION.
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PostPosted: 18-Nov-2017 12:30    Post subject: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

What about compared to a Light PPC?

Personally, by making the AC/2 lighter, they removed the one good thing about it: extreme range. Now, the LAC/2 is still heavy for its damage potential but is little good as the peashooter it was designed to be.

One good thing, I guess, is that it can use Armour Piercing rounds but in gameplay for any critical hits to be made a die roll of 12 must be got which is very unlikely in any scenario.
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PostPosted: 18-Nov-2017 17:32    Post subject: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

LLPC > AC/2 or LAC/2.
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PostPosted: 18-Nov-2017 20:45    Post subject: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

The best thing about an AC2 is the range. You take that away and it's worthless, unless you pack 10 of them....
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PostPosted: 19-Nov-2017 13:09    Post subject: Re: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sir Henry wrote:
The best thing about an AC2 is the range. You take that away and it's worthless, unless you pack 10 of them....


I find the LAC/2 rage sufficient for a 4t weapon.
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PostPosted: 19-Nov-2017 15:45    Post subject: Re: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

What good is a peashooter if it dosen't have extreme range?

If you want a very long range weapon then I wouldn't go for the LAC/2 but if all you need is a low heat med range AC then I guess it's OK + it can use special munitions.

It is good for a light 'Mech but snipers are usually Medium or Heavy.
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PostPosted: 19-Nov-2017 22:00    Post subject: Re: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

Kylo Kruis wrote:
What good is a peashooter if it dosen't have extreme range?

If you want a very long range weapon then I wouldn't go for the LAC/2 but if all you need is a low heat med range AC then I guess it's OK + it can use special munitions.

It is good for a light 'Mech but snipers are usually Medium or Heavy.


The LAC/2 has enough range (18 hexes) with great heat and 45 shots for 5 tons.

So:
LAC/2 w 1t ammo - 1 heat, 2 dmg, 18 range, 5 ton, 2 crit, 1 dhs heat neutral. Adjusted weight: 6 tons. Adjusted weight to damage: 3:1.
LL - 8 heat, 8 damage, 15 range, 5 ton, 2 crit, 3 dhs heat neutral. Adjusted weight: 8 tons. Adjusted weight to damage: 1:1.
ERLL - 12 heat, 8 damage, 19 range, 5 ton, 2 crit, 6 dhs heat neutral. Adjusted weight: 11 tons. Adjusted weight to damage: 1.375:1.
LPPC - 5 heat, 5 damage, (3 min) 18 range, 3 ton, 2 crit, 3 dhs heat neutral. Adjusted weight: 6 tons. Adjusted weight to damage: 1.2:1.

As you can see, the LAC/2 on units with SHS or heat neutral is a good weight. BUT it has terrible damage versus all the other options especially the LPPC.
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PostPosted: 20-Nov-2017 00:30    Post subject: Re: Discussion: Light AutoCannon/2: Good or Bad Reply to topic Reply with quote

Or 22 shots and ignore 2 points of target movement penalty for precision ammo Wink
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