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Hunter30
Clan Nova Cat
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Joined: 18-Apr-2004 00:00
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 Posted: 26-May-2004 13:10 Post subject: Buster Rifl(Revised) |
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Dmg:25
Heat:2
Mass:6
Crits:4
Ranges:1-8/9-15/16-24(min 3)
BV:559/70
Ammo:8/ton
Cost:600,000/25,000 C-Bills
The Buster Rifle was designed as a light version to the Clan Gauss Rifle that does 10 points more damage than the Standard Clan Gauss Rigle but with better range.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
General
Joined: 30-Apr-2002 00:00
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Location: United States
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| Posted: 26-May-2004 15:21 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifl(Revised) |
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So if this is the LIGHT version does that mean the Heavy does 50 points of damage?
The damage to weight to range make this WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY to overpowered. It has no drawbacks and only weighs 6 tons?
So it out ranges the current Gauss, out damages and weighs less than half?
With this kind of damage I would rather see
3-6-9 and weighs. But since it sthe light version I would make it work more along the lines of the IS light Gauss. Mabey lighten it by a ton though.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Custom* Weapons
Type/Model: Mist Puma
Tech: Clan / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 90 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 270 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 [64.8] km/h
Jump Jets: 3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
4 Buster Gauss Rifles*
2 ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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==Overview:==
Intended for Ranged combat
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Type/Model: Mist Puma
Mass: 90 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 138 pts Standard 0 9.00
Engine: 270 XL Fusion 10 7.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5 [6]
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 4 4.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 248 pts Standard 0 15.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 29 37
Center Torso (Rear): 12
L/R Side Torso: 19 26/26
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 15 27/27
L/R Leg: 19 34/34
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Buster Gauss Rifle* RA 2 128 20 22.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 4 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 Buster Gauss Rifle* LA 2 4 6.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 Buster Gauss Rifle* RT 2 4 6.00
1 Buster Gauss Rifle* LT 2 4 6.00
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 6.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
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TOTALS: 18 76 90.00
Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 24,220,060 C-Bills
Battle Value: 6,114
Cost per BV: 3,961.41
Weapon Value: 9,358 / 9,358 (Ratio = 1.53 / 1.53)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 72; MRDmg = 83; LRDmg = 47
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 6/5
Damage PB/M/L: 11/11/10, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 61
This was a quick design but at a range of 24 can dish out 100 points of damage.
[ This Message was edited by: Stinger on 2004-05-26 15:41 ]
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Hunter30
Clan Nova Cat
Point Commander
Joined: 18-Apr-2004 00:00
Posts: 46
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| Posted: 26-May-2004 22:08 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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Dmg:25
Heat:2
Mass:5
Crits:4
Ranges:1-8/9-15/16-25
BV:596/74
Ammo:8/ton
Cost:600,000/25,000 C-Bills
The Buster Rifle was designed as a light version to the Clan Gauss Rifle that does 10 points more damage than the Standard Clan Gauss Rifle but with better range.
(I had to make some changes to the Buster Rifle because medium range was too high.I hope it is a little better.)
[ This Message was edited by: Hunter30 on 2004-05-26 22:34 ]
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Gangrene
Federated Suns
Leftenant General
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 939
Location: United States
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| Posted: 27-May-2004 00:26 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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I am all for powerful weapons in Btech but your buster rifle is ridiculous. It has no tactical or material disadvantage. It weighs less than a clan ER PPC, does 10 more points damage, and shoots farther for only 2 heat and 8 shots per ton?! I like seeing new equipment around, but this particular piece is so out of balance it would disrupt the game. No thanks.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
General
Joined: 30-Apr-2002 00:00
Posts: 1833
Location: United States
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| Posted: 27-May-2004 00:40 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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BattleMech Technical Readout
Custom* Weapons
Type/Model: Myst Puma ll
Tech: Clan / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 90 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 270 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
7 Buster Gauss Rifles*
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Myst Puma ll
Mass: 90 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 138 pts Standard 0 9.00
Engine: 270 XL Fusion 10 7.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 248 pts Standard 0 15.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 29 37
Center Torso (Rear): 12
L/R Side Torso: 19 26/26
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 15 27/27
L/R Leg: 19 34/34
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 Buster Gauss Rifles* RA 4 136 25 27.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 HD, 1 LA, 1 RA, 6 LT, 2 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
2 Buster Gauss Rifles* LA 4 8 10.00
2 Buster Gauss Rifles* RT 4 8 10.00
1 Buster Gauss Rifle* LT 2 4 5.00
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TOTALS: 14 78 90.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 24,996,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 6,132
Cost per BV: 4,076.39
Weapon Value: 12,071 / 12,071 (Ratio = 1.97 / 1.97)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 106; MRDmg = 131; LRDmg = 81
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 6/5
Damage PB/M/L: 15/18/18, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 61
Ok 175 points of damage starting at range 25? sorry this is WAY to over powered. Especially in the hands of an elite pilot. At a range of 25 with a 1 pilot and open terrain I would need 7's. So if I hit with 4 your mech takes 100 points of damage. If I get lucky and hit will all 7 there is a very good posibility that your toast.
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If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
Senior Tech Specialist
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 4899
Location: United States
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| Posted: 27-May-2004 06:38 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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Try Doubling the weight/heat, and halving the ammo/range.
Then Maybe...
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Hunter30
Clan Nova Cat
Point Commander
Joined: 18-Apr-2004 00:00
Posts: 46
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| Posted: 27-May-2004 06:58 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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Dmg:25
Heat:4
Mass:10
Crits:4
Ranges:1-5/6-10/11-15
BV:370/46
Ammo:5/ton
Cost:600,000/25,000 C-Bills
The Buster Rifle was designed as a light version to the Clan Gauss Rifle that does 10 points more damage than the Standard Clan Gauss Rifle but with better range.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
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| Posted: 27-May-2004 10:27 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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Dmg:25
Heat:4
Mass:18
Crits:10
Ranges:1-4/6-8/11-12
Ammo:5/ton
Cost:800,000/35,000 C-Bills
With that kind of damage even this is pushing it.
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If it's "creepy" to use the Internet, military satellites, and robot aircraft to find a house full of gorgeous young models so I can drop in on them unexpected, then FINE, I'm "creepy". Howard Wolowitz. BBT.
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
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Posts: 4899
Location: United States
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| Posted: 28-May-2004 06:14 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifle(Revised) |
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On 2004-05-27 10:27, Stinger wrote:
Dmg:25
Heat:4
Mass:18
Crits:10
Ranges:1-4/6-8/11-12
Ammo:5/ton
Cost:800,000/35,000 C-Bills
With that kind of damage even this is pushing it.
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Raise the heat to 8 Lower the mass to 12 and the crits to 8. The ammo is ok and so is the range except where is 5, 9 and 10? 
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Hunter30
Clan Nova Cat
Point Commander
Joined: 18-Apr-2004 00:00
Posts: 46
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| Posted: 28-May-2004 10:03 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifl(Revised) |
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Dmg:12
Heat:2
Mass:8
Crits:4
Ranges:1-8/9-17/18-25(min 2)
BV:292/36
Ammo:14/ton
Cost:600,000/25,000 C-Bills
The Buster Rifle was designed as a light version to the Clan Gauss Rifle that does 12 points of damage but has the same range as the Inner Sphere Light Gauss Rifle and only weighs 8 tons.
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Gangrene
Federated Suns
Leftenant General
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Posts: 939
Location: United States
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| Posted: 28-May-2004 19:44 Post subject: RE: Buster Rifl(Revised) |
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That is a more reasonable weapon.
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