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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | | I just wonder, what it would be like, if we just took the matters in our own hands and started to remake the designs from TRO 3050 onward in our own image. I mean tanks and all. |
Beyond upsetting a few folks who seem to be so proud of their stuff being official, I don't see anything wrong with the idea. It has been done to all of the mechs in TRO3055 so I am pretty sure it has also been done in some way to the TROs after that one. So I say post away and we can see what we get. More stuff is always good and who knows, maybe it will get us something better in that we have average to decent, not average to WTF are they think units.
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| Posted: 14-Aug-2010 22:16 Post subject: Re: TRO3085 |
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I was thinking more in lines of the old is new sections of the TRO (good stuff IMO). Just description, no hard stats. They are easier to work with and we all know that a trained monkey can make a stat block out of that stuff with HMPro at hand, right? My thoughts are that all designs, even the botches, show some intention and we can easily steer an upgrade toward that direction with little effort while retaining some common sense.
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| Posted: 14-Aug-2010 22:54 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Works for me, I was aiming for what Ruger and company around here did to the TRO3055 mechs, showing that even with the then high tech wonder toys you could pretty much down grade some things and revamp the mechs and still end up with the same over all mech that was in the TRO to start with, but at less cost and silliness.
Using the old is new idea is fine, it does indeed give a starting point...
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| Posted: 15-Aug-2010 11:54 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Are you talking budget refits or "lvl1" refits? Sounds like an awesome idea, either way! 8)
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| Posted: 15-Aug-2010 12:49 Post subject: Re: TRO3085 |
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| jymset wrote: | | Are you talking budget refits or "lvl1" refits? Sounds like an awesome idea, either way! 8) |
I am going with the idea that if a mech can do the same thing as the one in the TRO with less new crap or the new stuff can be used BETTER, then the mech could be redone and still give the same job performance. I am not talking about dropping tech levels, though a few would be better off without some of the new wonder toys.
Hey let's toss an XL in there, improved jumps and only increase the movement total one hex more. Wow. Really impressive, yeppers that will really help win the battle.
A good example of this is found here on these boards or in the archives, where folks took the 3055 mechs, you know like the Dart and Fireball etc...redid them so that they didn't have every new wonder toy crammed into them and funny how they came out better or on par with the originals. That is what I think we could be doing with these.
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| Posted: 15-Aug-2010 17:44 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Let's try this then.
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| Posted: 16-Aug-2010 00:14 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Yeah, I remember these, but I'd rather keep more to the original designs in this case. There is a reason for me, for example, to build tanks only under 50 tons if possible. They take up only half of the drop ship space. This, hwever, doesn't mean that I'll try to make challenger-lite 
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| Posted: 16-Aug-2010 03:56 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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my comment was simply in response to the why are they using a plethora of tech when you can build it with less or better tech. Chibi uses lots of advanced tech on each design... but not just to use it but to miniaturize it. If i was trying to be faithful i would have pointed out other designs.
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| Posted: 16-Aug-2010 13:38 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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I was just pointing out, that I was looking more toward simple refits than reworks 
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| Posted: 16-Aug-2010 17:10 Post subject: Re: TRO3085 |
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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | | I was just pointing out, that I was looking more toward simple refits than reworks |
We can do both. I don't think it would hurt to try any ways.
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| Posted: 17-Aug-2010 00:16 Post subject: Re: TRO3085 |
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Sure, actually anyone is welcome to add his or her ideas to the topic started my me in the Design Submissions.
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| Posted: 17-Aug-2010 01:29 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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can't. don't have the TRO.... lol.
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| Posted: 17-Aug-2010 09:47 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Doesn't have to be the same TRO...pick one and go with it.
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| Posted: 17-Aug-2010 13:05 Post subject: TRO3085 |
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Actually it's just like the older TROs (which is a part of Morel's database), but with different art and some higher-tech variants. I'll Work with the basic models at first an perhaps alter some newer technologies if I find them particularly botched.
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