And there is the simple argument of don't-want-it. I hear NASA wants the next generation of space shuttle to be a remote control or autopilot rig. No human pilots, just passengers. And no cockpit viewports, I'd wager. Remember The Right Stuff? "We're pilots, put a window on it, right about there."

How many MW want to stuff themselves into a sealed metal coffin burined deep inside the bowels of a mech with a bunch of TV screens? They're human, they want a freaking window they can see out of.

Also, what about heat? How will the pilot eject from a metal coffin buried deep inside the mech torso? How will he make it through the crawlspace alive when the engine is damaged or burning hot? How will he get out after internal damage wrecks the entry crawlspace without the techs literally cutting the torso to pieces to get at him. Will the heat from his damaged engine fry him first? Even aside from the give-me-a-window human factor, for the pilot to be anywhere but in the head will just make the battle more likely to kill the pilot. Being in the exposed head "might" be bad. Being trapped in a blinded, sensorless metal coffin that is getting hotter by the second while your mech is blown apart all around you and you can't eject or even crawl out will always be bad.

On 2004-02-20 00:09, Gangrene wrote:

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On 2004-02-19 22:02, ralgith wrote: You never seem to have a reply for the Pshyce side of this Gangrene, you can't justify your arguments against it. But Vampire did do a good job on her rules.

Its a trumped up argument you guys dredged up because you have no technical arguments to support you anymore. I can no more deny it than you can confirm it.

Now as for the whether heads or no heads is better technically. Well, a remote controlled head, even if the MW is still in the mech.... what about ECM?

How much would heat affect the control cables, perhaps more so than if the MW is sitting in the head itself?

And there is the simple argument of don't-want-it. I hear NASA wants the next generation of space shuttle to be a remote control or autopilot rig. No human pilots, just passengers. And no cockpit viewports, I'd wager. Remember The Right Stuff? "We're pilots, put a window on it, right about there."

How many MW want to stuff themselves into a sealed metal coffin burined deep inside the bowels of a mech with a bunch of TV screens?

How will the pilot eject from a metal coffin buried deep inside the mech torso?

Even aside from the give-me-a-window human factor, for the pilot to be anywhere but in the head will just make the battle more likely to kill the pilot.

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How many MW want to stuff themselves into a sealed metal coffin burined deep inside the bowels of a mech with a bunch of TV screens?

Those that don't want to be killed in a single shot. People already stuff themselves into dark rooms with nothing but computer screens for money. I'm sure if the sensor feed was adequate they would do it for protection.

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How will the pilot eject from a metal coffin buried deep inside the mech torso?

Make a section of the structure disposable in the case of ejection. Really, this isn't a big deal.

On 2004-02-19 20:37, Gangrene wrote:


I just think that situational awareness can be just as easily attained by 3050 sensor technology than what can be attained by having a nice view.

On 2004-02-20 15:09, -Mud wrote:

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On 2004-02-19 20:37, Gangrene wrote: I just think that situational awareness can be just as easily attained by 3050 sensor technology than what can be attained by having a nice view.

What happens when the sensors suffer damage...not just the ones mounted underneath the armor, but all of the external cameras, heat sensors, and everything else you are going to need. Some grunt could blind your 'mech with a blast of machine gun fire.