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PostPosted: 17-Jan-2005 22:52    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Build a Frigate that... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2005-01-17 21:37, Karagin wrote:
Uhmm seeinghow I posted the challenge, wouldn't you need to be asking me this?


Not really. Nothing in your post (except the In Death Ground connotation of "Cataphract") suggested an anti-fighter ship, at least not to me. But as that's exactly what Vagabond came up with, I thought I'd ask.

Anyways, here's the new RAC version.

                    AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                                  VALIDATED

Class/Model/Name:  Cataphract Class FSS Belladonna
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       WarShip
Rules:             Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              700,000 tons
K-F Drive System:  (Unknown)
Length:            737 meters
Sail Diameter:     1,095 meters
Power Plant:       Standard
Safe Thrust:       3
Maximum Thrust:    5
Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:          
    1 NAC/35
    8 NAC/30
    2 NAC/25
   38 NL55
   40 Rotary AC/5
   61 ER Large Laser
    6 NAC/40
    4 NAC/20
Manufacturer:   Unknown
  Location:     Unnamed
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
After Katherine Steiner-Davion's surrender to her brother, intelligence
analysts immediately descended upon Davion Palace so as to ensure that they
knew the full extent of her activities. Among other things, these analysts
found multiple references to a "Project Cataphract," a name ambiguous enough
to mean practically anything.

The breakthrough came when a known Katherine loyalist was arrested while
attempting to leave New Avalon. He was delivered by New Avalon authorities to
MIIO, and ... interrogated vigorously. From this interrogation, it was learned
that the man was a courier, tasked with carrying messages which Katherine did
not want intercepted by ComStar to their destinations aboard civilian
transports. They also learned the nature and location of "Project
Cataphract."

Project Cataphract was, as one analyst put it, "a conspiracy theorist's
dream." Authorized by Katherine in 3063, Project Cataphract was a successful
effort to secretly construct a shipyard complex in an uninhabited system, with
the intention of using the WarShips from this shipyard to turn the tide of the
Civil War. The captured courier made mention of setbacks which ultimately kept
the Cataphract yards from contributing to the war effort, but was rendered
incapable of elaborating by overzealous interrogation. The subject was
subsequently terminated, and the overzealous interrogater is facing inquiry.

An impromptu task force, including the FSS Simon Davion, two Aerospace
regiments, a regiment of Marines, and assorted DropShips and JumpShips, was
formed and dispatched to the uninhabited system in which the "Cataphract" yard
was located. Upon the task force's arrival, the defending loyalist aero wing
moved immediately to engage them. They surrendered just as quickly when they
discovered they were facing 6 to 1 odds.

The "Cataphract" facilities consisted of a large recharge station of an unkown
class and a few independent building slips.  While a number of DropShips and
two Aero wings were left behind to oversee recovery of the surrendered
fighters, the Simon and the assault DropShips began their attempt to capture
the station. A company of Marines was diverted to capture the one WarShip near
completion (out of three), while the rest of the regiment began with the
station. Unfortunately, they did not move fast enough.

Before the Marines could secure the station's command center, the loyalist
commander detonated the thermonuclear self-destruct charges scattered
throughout the station and building slips. The single captured WarShip managed
to escape its building slip before this occured, but the other two were
destroyed, along with the station. Also lost were  a Union Class DropShip, a
Leopard Class DropShip, thirteen Aerospace fighters, some 700 Marines, some
400 loyalist personnel, and some 1,200 civilian workers and dependents.

Faced with nothing but an empty star system, the task force charged its jump
drives, left the system, and reported the mission's results. The task force's
units were returned to more usual duties, and the lost Marine regiment
disbanded. The officer in charge of the company which captured the intact
WarShip will face a court-martial on New Avalon for executing the prisoners
captured along with the WarShip (some 70 workers and crew) after the station's
destruction.

For lack of a better name, the ship was designated the "Cataphract Class" and
sent to Galax, where her constuction was finished. A month later the
Cataphract, christened Belladonna, entered service.

==Capabilities:==
Apparently worked up under heavy time and resource constraints, the Cataphract
design seems to have at least one feature intended to annoy each FedSuns
admiral. It's slow, with a relatively short fuel endurance. Its weapons are
overwhelmingly ammunition dependant, and equipped with a short ammo supply. It
has a very small miscellanious cargo capacity. It has only two DropShip
docking collars. And, possibly worst of all, it has no fighters.

Nonetheless, the Federated Suns can't afford to just dismiss a WarShip,
especially after the losses of the Civil War. And it's generally agreed that
the Cataphract design has some advantages - heavy firepower and heavy armor
being foremost among them.

The Cataphract is armed primarily for anti-ship combat. Heavy naval autocannon
are mounted in the ship's nose and flanks, backed up by lighter NACs and heavy
naval lasers. For anti-fighter defense, the Cataphract carries a number of
heavy LBX autocannon and large lasers in each weapons arc. The strength of the
nose and broadside weapons arcs means that aft firepower necessarily suffers,
so the Cataphract mounts somewhat more of its armor aft than is usual.

While her construction was being completed, the Belladonna was refitted with
the new and more effective rotary autocannons in place of her LBXs. The
lighter weight of the RACs and a few creative modifications allow the RACs to
have a (barely) sufficient ammo load.

==Notable Vessels & Crews:==
FSS Belladonna (3067)

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Class/Model/Name:  Cataphract Class FSS Belladonna
Mass:              700,000 tons

Equipment:                                                            Mass  
Power Plant, Drive & Control:                                      126,000.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
      Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 15)               316,750.00
Lithium Fusion Battery                                               7,000.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 4)                                 65.00
Structural Integrity: 150                                          105,000.00
Total Heat Sinks:    2,910 Double                                    2,364.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                                   6,069.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:              1,750.00
Fire Control Computers:                                                   .00
Food & Water:  (168 days supply)                                       354.00
Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (2,190 total armor pts)         2,100.00
                           Capital Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Fore:                                401
   Fore-Left/Right:                  360/360
   Aft-Left/Right:                   360/360
   Aft:                                 349

Cargo:
   Bay 1:  Small Craft (2) with 2 doors                                400.00
           Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                      450.00
   Bay 2:  Small Craft (2) with 2 doors                                400.00
           Cargo (1) with 2 doors                                      450.00

DropShip Capacity:  2 Docking Hardpoints                             2,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2:  (90-meter diameter)                                100.00
Escape Pods:  40 (7 tons each)                                         280.00

Crew and Passengers:
     65 Officers (53 minimum)                                          650.00
    180 Crew (120 minimum)                                           1,260.00
     85 Gunners (76 minimum)                                           595.00
      2 1st Class Passengers                                            20.00
      6 2nd Class Passengers                                            42.00
     64 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                        448.00
     20 Bay Personnel                                                     .00
Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 NAC/35(20 rounds)        Nose        35     35     --     --  120  4,020.00
1 NAC/30(20 rounds)        Nose        30     30     30     --  100  3,516.00
2 NAC/25(40 rounds)        Nose        50     50     50     --  170  6,024.00
4 NL55                     Nose        22     22     22     22  340  4,400.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  Nose     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   12     50.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  Nose     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   12     50.00
1 Rotary AC/5(300 rounds)  Nose     2(20)  2(20)     --     --    6     25.00
7 ER Large Laser           Nose     6(56)  6(56)  6(56)     --   84     35.00
1 NAC/40(20 rounds)        FL/R        40     40     --     --  270  9,048.00
1 NAC/30(20 rounds)        FL/R        30     30     30     --  200  7,032.00
6 NL55                     FL/R        33     33     33     33 1020 13,200.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  FL/R     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  FL/R     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
1 Rotary AC/5(300 rounds)  FL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   12     50.00
7 ER Large Laser           FL/R     6(56)  6(56)  6(56)     --  168     70.00
1 NAC/40(20 rounds)        L/RBS       40     40     --     --  270  9,048.00
1 NAC/30(20 rounds)        L/RBS       30     30     30     --  200  7,032.00
2 NAC/20(40 rounds)        L/RBS       40     40     40     --  240 10,032.00
4 NL55                     L/RBS       22     22     22     22  680  8,800.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  L/RBS    4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  L/RBS    4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
1 Rotary AC/5(300 rounds)  L/RBS    2(20)  2(20)     --     --   12     50.00
7 ER Large Laser           L/RBS    6(56)  6(56)  6(56)     --  168     70.00
1 NAC/40(20 rounds)        AL/R        40     40     --     --  270  9,048.00
1 NAC/30(20 rounds)        AL/R        30     30     30     --  200  7,032.00
5 NL55                     AL/R        28     28     28     28  850 11,000.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  AL/R     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  AL/R     4(40)  4(40)     --     --   24    100.00
1 Rotary AC/5(300 rounds)  AL/R     2(20)  2(20)     --     --   12     50.00
8 ER Large Laser           AL/R     6(64)  6(64)  6(64)     --  192     80.00
1 NAC/30(20 rounds)        Aft         30     30     30     --  100  3,516.00
4 NL55                     Aft         22     22     22     22  340  4,400.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  Aft      4(40)  4(40)     --     --   12     50.00
2 Rotary AC/5(600 rounds)  Aft      4(40)  4(40)     --     --   12     50.00
1 Rotary AC/5(300 rounds)  Aft      2(20)  2(20)     --     --    6     25.00
10 ER Large Laser          Aft      8(80)  8(80)  8(80)     --  120     50.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%)                                            7,000.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                            Heat: 6,342     700,000.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        10,504,955,600 C-Bills
Battle Value:      209,382
Cost per BV:       50,171.24
Weapon Value:      129,784 (Ratio = .62)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 8,267;  MRV = 8,038;  LRV = 5,785;  ERV = 1,498
Maintenance:       Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 516,101
                   (111,508 Structure, 178,775 Life Support, 225,818 Weapons)
                   Support Points (SP) = 741,375  (144% of MPV)
BattleForce2:      Not applicable




[ This Message was edited by: StarRaven on 2005-01-18 00:16 ]
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PostPosted: 17-Jan-2005 23:01    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Build a Frigate that... Reply to topic Reply with quote

two things if i may:

1] edit your fluff, u still say LBX.

2] Split those RACs up into 1 or 2 cannon bays. You can pound alot with a 5 gun bay, but i think you may need the versitility of engaging multiple targets at once.

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PostPosted: 18-Jan-2005 00:14    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Build a Frigate that... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Of course you may.

The fluff was edited. Check the end of capabilities; it mentions that RACs were refitted in Galax. For some reason I didn't feel like eliminating all mention of the LBXs.

The splitting of RACs I like though. I hadn't considered versatility in quite that way, but that does sound a better way of doing it. Especially for an anti-fighter defense.

Don't feel like making another long post, so I'll just go back and edit that one with the RAC splitting.


[ This Message was edited by: StarRaven on 2005-01-18 00:14 ]
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PostPosted: 18-Jan-2005 14:16    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Build a Frigate that... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2005-01-17 22:52, StarRaven wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-01-17 21:37, Karagin wrote:
Uhmm seeinghow I posted the challenge, wouldn't you need to be asking me this?


Not really. Nothing in your post (except the In Death Ground connotation of "Cataphract") suggested an anti-fighter ship, at least not to me. But as that's exactly what Vagabond came up with, I thought I'd ask.



The anti fighter ship in the novels was the Carbines...or it seemed to me... Oh well. As long as we are having fun. I did post a challenge for an Anti-fighter Destoryer over at HMPro's site...you may want check it out.

I like both ships so far and they are very interesting takes on the idea as given.

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PostPosted: 18-Jan-2005 16:03    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Build a Frigate that... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm re-reading it now. Cataphracts were the original anti-fighter ship. The Carbine became as dangerous only later, in Kliean.

I haven't been active on HMP, but I'll have to check that one out.

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