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PostPosted: 06-Nov-2004 20:42    Post subject: RE: 4 way war Reply to topic Reply with quote

VOLTRON!!!

That show is so old that I barely remember it. It took me years to learn the name. That was one of the best shows. And there's one with vehicles? Weird.

Slightly off topic, but since I'm thinking about it: when Voltron came on before I went to school, there was another show that came on near the same time, shortly before or after, can't remember which. All I remember about it was that they were on like a colony planet or something; a desertish planet I think. Instead of the protypical domes, they had like landers or something; they sat there on the ground and had ramps that vehicles could go down. They were brown. And I remember something about a plant, but that might have been a particular episode. I know it's sparse, but I was hoping someone might recognize it. Any takers?

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Paul
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PostPosted: 07-Nov-2004 11:02    Post subject: RE: 4 way war Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hmm.

Tricky. Not much is known about the reletive firepower of each.

Looking only at the Mecha, not anything else from those universes:

Mechs.
*Huge compared to Veritechs, (smaller than Light Mechs) and Transformers (ProtoMech size). Gundams are bigger.

* Serious firepower. Based on what they can do to buildings. Weapons from all 4 can pretty much level a building in a handful of shots. I'd have to make life easier by handwaving a level playing field here.

* Range. Crappy in BT. If you like to think that this is mostly due to BT ECM (IOW, the excuse also used with Gundams) then maybe things wont be that bad for them, provided the ECM of the other 4 universes does little. I'd have to think Transformer range is crappy too since they just about never hit each other despite umpteen shots fired. Armada etc does not exist to me.
Robotech range is extreme to the point that if all 4 universes are stuck to their respective ranges, Robotech can fire pretty much everything it has before anyone else even gets close enough for a potshot.

* Speed. Mechs are slow. Transformers are faster, esspecially after they transform. Gundams are pretty swift too, but Robotech Veritechs are ahead by a huge margin when it comes to speed.

* Armor. If the above level playing field thing is bought, BT armor is second best. Transformers are in serious shit every single time they take even one hit, Robotech vehicles take 1 hit and pretty much always die, while the Gundamniam (sp) armor of Gundam is pretty much invulnerable.

So, provided that each universe can beat Gundamniam (sp) armor somehow, I'd have to give Robotech the edge. They're faster, and have far superior range. They're the equivalent of a 20 ton 10/15 Mech a PPC and LRMs fighting a group of 100 ton AC20 totting Mechs. Provided there's no limit to the map, there's just no way the Robotech units should ever take shots.
If Gundamniam armor is as bad as it is in the show, they win since they can't be beat.
If the ranges are all equivalent to each other, and if the firepower is equivalent to each other, and if Gundamniam can be defeated, the Mechs win. More armor or firepower vs. Robotech and Gundam respectively.

Transformers just suck severely compared to what the other 3 can do. Sorry. Love the show, but they can't compete.

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