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Seraph
Blighted Sun Battalion
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 Posted: 12-May-2004 04:25 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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It was 24 hexes Chihawk. And that part was in response to SaberDance's remark about his dislike of the AC/2.
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 06:21 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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I can't stand the Light Gauss. It's like a bandaid on cut that's healed, Worthless.
I don't like anything OS.
Stream LRMs??? Why bother?
I do lke the AC/2's. I like to attack at 24 and up.
Chandra, We arlready knew you are difficult and whiny.... 
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ralgith
Blighted Sun Battalion
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 07:48 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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Well, here's mine:
Light Gauss
OS LRMs
X-Pulse Lasers
Level 3 Claw (though it does LOOK cool in some artwork)
Heavy Gauss is kinda a toss up, I like it but I don't
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Oafman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 09:00 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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When I said 24 hexes I was refering to the AC2 comment. The SRM notes were only to show that I frequently fire the weapons at maximum range. It was not meant to imply that I was firing srm at 24 hexes.
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Wanallo
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 09:46 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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I don't like OS missiles either. You might as well put the rocket launcers on it. Plus they are much cheaper in campaign.
I quite like the light gauss rifle, don't know why because there are more wieght efficient weapons which do similar damage (AC10),
It works really well on fast medium sniper mechs. Good for popping apart lights where the normal gauss is to heavy or AC10 to short range.
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cain
Blighted Sun Battalion
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 11:13 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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nothing wrong with a light gauss if u got a fast enough mech it can be quite devestating with enough ammo
got to say i have very little use for MRMs as MDPLS are far more efficient and reliable
[ This Message was edited by: cain on 2004-05-12 11:13 ]
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Col. Dwight Chandra
Lewis' Executioners
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 12:03 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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On 2004-05-12 06:21, Sir Henry wrote:
...Chandra, We arlready knew you are difficult and whiny....
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Yeah, well, sometimes it's useful to reinforce these things 
One-shots...who said "One-shots"? Yeah, I hate those too.
And actually there is one specialty munition that I don't hate...torpedos. I don't hate them for three reasons.
1) they are so specialized, that if anyone is willing to forego the tonnage for something that they can use so infrequently, then my hat is off to them!
2) Most games are not decided by what happens underwater (with the exception of the Mosh Pit)
3) they pulled a thorn out of my foot once (I was piloting a Daishi, and I didn't see the Thorn lining up its LRM-5 shot)
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Storm
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Chu-i
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 13:56 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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Most disliked. . . . . .
Well, all here know I am a gauss fan. I prefer to flatten \'em either far away, or in their face, so I think maces are just fine.
Useless weapons. . . . .
the standard MG. If you can carry 200 shots, what\'s the point if you are only doing 2 points of damage? It\'s like trying to nick someone to death with a razor blade.
Heavy lasers don\'t seem to do much, kind of like re-inventing the wheel. MRMs are ok, although I've had 60 shot at me at one time, and not a one hit. I solve that problem by using targeting computers.
And I LOVE streak missiles. If\'n I\'m gonna shoot a missile, it ought to hit something.
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Storm
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 14:02 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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Why do you dislike Clan PLs? They are the greatest thing since sliced infantry! -2 to hit, heat is a little higher, but easier hits and more damage I like. The shorter range I can deal with.
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Storm
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 14:04 Post subject: Rocket Stats? |
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I'm a little behind on things at the moment. Do you have the stats & rules on Rocket Launchers? Or can you tell me where to find them?
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chihawk
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 14:48 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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The Torpedo is a different weapon then a regular missile launcher because the ammo isn't interchangable...
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 15:32 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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I don't see why people don't like streaks ... I personally love them. You can carry less ammo so you don't necessarily have to CASE it up and they are incredibly heat efficient when you factor in all of the heat generated to shoot and miss with regular L/SRM's ... over all incredible weapons.
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ralgith
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 16:37 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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I haven't seen anyone say they don't like Streak SRMs, just the Streak LRMs. Streak LRMs are less well liked then the SRMs are.
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Feral
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 16:57 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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But again I ask why? For the same reason that streak SRM's are good Streak LRM's are good as well. Its very hard to find heat efficient long range weapons that don't take up a dozen or so crits or tons ... well Streak LRM's are right there. Not too heavy, not too big, and not too hot ... but again ammo efficient and awesome heat/damage ratio.
I guess people just figure when you are making a clan mech that you might as well just make a laser boat because the clans have such awesome lasers ... but the fact is if you would ever consider even for a moment a regular LRM ... you will be better off with a streak.
That said I would like to say that the artemis IV or V are both total wastes on SRM's when you have the option of streaks ... and on LRMs the IV is a waste if you are a clanner (I am not sure if the V or the streak is better ... that -1 is awefully enticing since you are usually at long range with LRMs)
I guess we also need to add that Artemis V is level 3 which is generally despised around here.
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Seraph
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| Posted: 12-May-2004 17:15 Post subject: RE: Disliked weapons |
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I'm not sure, but I have heard that mounting an ECM system will negate a streak system from locking on you.
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