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Guilty conscience? 
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Rick Raisley
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 14:14 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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Actually, I wasn't referring to you. I see you are already a (relatively new) poster at the HM boards. Heck, you haven't even been there long enough to be annoying. 
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 15:15 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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He's talking about Mo.... 
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 15:20 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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LOL!
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 20:01 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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Thanks guys I like you too! 
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 21:58 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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Does the blue shield also occupy the free head crit location?
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 22:05 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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On 2003-09-09 21:58, Gangrene wrote:
Does the blue shield also occupy the free head crit location?
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Yes, it does. One crit in every location. It appears that all good things have a (sometimes heavy) price.
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 22:13 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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Wow, that sucks. So if you lose any part of your mech it dies. That is lame.
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 22:16 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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On 2003-09-09 22:13, Gangrene wrote:
Wow, that sucks. So if you lose any part of your mech it dies. That is lame.
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Unless you're fighting an Awesome there's no real reason to use it anyway...
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| Posted: 09-Sep-2003 22:21 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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Right. You're much better off using Laser-Reflective (Glazed) armor. It cuts the damage from PPCs, flamers /and/ Lasers in half, develops no heat, you can't knock the crits out, and the only downside is that falling damage is doubled.
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| Posted: 10-Sep-2003 00:50 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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I thought that all ballistic damage was doubled as well with Glazed or lazer reflective armor.
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| Posted: 10-Sep-2003 02:03 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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On 2003-09-10 00:50, Stinger wrote:
I thought that all ballistic damage was doubled as well with Glazed or lazer reflective armor.
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Glazed and laser-reflective armours are differant from each other
Glazed armour:page 68 THB;
Glazed armour can be fitted to any BattleMech in the same manner as standard or Ferro-fibrous armour,but cannot be combined with standard BattleMech armour.Glazed armour offers 16 points of armour protection per ton .Because the ferro-titanium alloy is over-heated prior to foaming,glazed armour takes up more space than standard ferro-fiborous armour andreqires 17 critical slots.when hit by laser or flamer fire ,glazed armour takes half the normal damage,rounded down.For PPC strikes,increase the normal damage by 50 percent rounding fractions up.AX warheads do 3 points of damage to glazed armour,which provides only standard protection against all other ballistic and physical weapons.
Laser-Reflective Armour:page 81 Max Tech;
Laser-reflective armouris less bulky than most other types of specail armour, taking up only 10 critical slots Clan 'Mechs including OmniMechscan also mount reflective armour,the Clan variant occupies only 5 critical slots.Laserreflective armour mounted on vehicles counts asa single item for rthe purpose of space restrictions. For all units,each ton of laser-reflectivearmour provides the standard 16 armour points
Laser-reflective armour reduces the damage a unit sustains from energy-weapon attacks:all types of lasers,PPCs and flamers,as well as attacks from infantry armed with energy weapons each point of reflective armour absobs 2 points of damage from such attacks,in the same manner as hardened armour,Other types of attacks are resolved normally
Because laser-reflective armour is so brittle,double the damage inflicted by physical attacks and falling. This double damage does not apply to a reflecyive-armoures units internal structure,however.In game play , the simplist way to handle such impact bamage is to mark off 2 armour boxes for every point of damage from such an attack.if only 1 armour box remains intact in a location ,the armour does not prevent damage from reaching the inrternal structure,but the box should be marked off nonetheless.
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| Posted: 10-Sep-2003 07:13 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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As much as I fall, there no reason for me to use that armor....
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Rick Raisley
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| Posted: 10-Sep-2003 17:51 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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On 2003-09-10 02:03, Motown Scrapper wrote:
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On 2003-09-10 00:50, Stinger wrote:
I thought that all ballistic damage was doubled as well with Glazed or lazer reflective armor.
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No, they're the same. Per MaxTech Revised, page 74:
"Laser-Reflective Armor: Also called "glazed armor" or "refec," laser-reflective armor..."
Laser-Reflective (Glazed) and Reactive (Blazer) armors, as described in MaxTech, supercede the "experimental" versions of the same armors published in the Tactical Handbook. Only the MaxTech versions are in HMPro. But even the THB version of Glazed armor did not take double damage from ballistic weapons, as it says on page 68 of THB: "...to glazed armor, which provides only standard protection against all other ballistic and physical weapons."
BTW, the original MaxTech that Mo is quoting from has the same wording, referring to Laser-Reflective armor as Glazed armor.
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| Posted: 10-Sep-2003 21:20 Post subject: RE: Question about the Blue Shield |
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So shoot me ,I have the older books!but if you look in the post I first put up there are differances notably in how they handle PPC fire and critical spaces.(it would a pear the max tech version is derived fron standard armour while the THB states that their version is derived from ferro-fiborous.)also the THB version is vulnerable to AX warheads
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