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Vagabond
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The weapon that put the nail in the coffin of the AC/5.
LPPC + 4 HS = 7t and 6c
AC/5 + 1 ammo = 9t and 5c
Same range and damage profile. Energy based so can be used underwater and windy/low grav environments.
Its just... better.
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| Posted: 09-Feb-2015 12:43 Post subject: Light PPC |
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Technically it's 1 more crit, so the nail isn't drive ALL the way in.
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| Posted: 09-Feb-2015 16:14 Post subject: Light PPC |
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But very deep indeed. ACs should have received an upgrade to UAC range profiles IMO after 3060's if not sooner.
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| Posted: 12-Feb-2015 13:44 Post subject: Light PPC |
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I always liked the idea that someone once posted of using alternate damage for the lighter ACs, turning the 2 into a 3 and the 5 into a 7. Dont know if the AC7 can compete with a LPPC but it at least gives it a chance to come out at midnight and scare the wee kids a bit.
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| Posted: 12-Feb-2015 14:26 Post subject: Light PPC |
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The ability to use special ammo types can be mentioned in favor of the AC/5.
If that counters the weight savings of the LPPC everybody has to decide himself 
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| Posted: 12-Feb-2015 15:19 Post subject: Re: Light PPC |
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| Rudel Gurken wrote: | The ability to use special ammo types can be mentioned in favor of the AC/5.
If that counters the weight savings of the LPPC everybody has to decide himself |
Yes, the special munitions are all that saves the AC/5 from fossilhood.
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| Posted: 19-Feb-2015 01:35 Post subject: Light PPC |
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Light PPC is better than AC5 in pretty much ever aspect save for special munitions. OK so here is the next question does the Light PPC replace the Large Laser?
An equal tonnage of the two....
5x LPPCs = 15 tons, 25 damage, 25 heat, 10 crits
3x LLs = 15 tons, 24 damage, 24 heat, 6 crits
Definitely a crit advantage to the LL, however the LPPC has superior range and damage for the same weight tho minimum. So???
I am thinking of taking an old PXH-1 and stripping its LL, MGs and ammo then dropping a LPPC into each arm with an additional heat sink in the ammo location. Cruise and fire both at range or jump and fire one.
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| Posted: 19-Feb-2015 03:13 Post subject: Light PPC |
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I don't think the LPPC out right kills the LL. The LL maintains a nitch that is hard to match.
I think a LPPC instead of a LL on a PHawk or Wolfhound is doable. But you'd definitely need the MLs as backup for when you get close.
Now a TBolt could definitely use one as a long range snipe as it closes. With the classic heat issues, you'll rarely use it in close anyway.
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| Posted: 19-Feb-2015 12:47 Post subject: Light PPC |
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Not to mention concentrated damage.
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| Posted: 19-Feb-2015 13:14 Post subject: Re: Light PPC |
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| Vagabond wrote: | | I don't think the LPPC out right kills the LL. The LL maintains a nitch that is hard to match. |
I would agree, however, I think the LL's niche is smaller if not much smaller with the LPPC available.
| Vagabond wrote: | | I think a LPPC instead of a LL on a PHawk or Wolfhound is doable. But you'd definitely need the MLs as backup for when you get close. |
Yes the Wolfhound would be a good candidate for LPPC. I was also thinking of the old Jenner, TRO 3025 states it was originally intended to have a LL instead of SRMs, be a sweat mod to trade the SRMs back out for say a LPPC and 2 more JJs. A couple of those with some Panthers for backup be a nasty light lance.
Blackjack also comes to mind or a Swayback with a bunch of SRMs and MLs.
| Vagabond wrote: | | Now a TBolt could definitely use one as a long range snipe as it closes. With the classic heat issues, you'll rarely use it in close anyway. |
I like that idea as well, the LPPC makes a very good secondary weapon on heavies as already demonstrated on your Marauder mod. On the TBolt swap the LL for LPPC and use the extra 2 tons to what, upgrade the SRM to a 6?
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2015 11:04 Post subject: Light PPC |
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I think I see some MegaMek field testing in our future.
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| Posted: 25-Feb-2015 11:14 Post subject: Light PPC |
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Can LPPCs and HPPCs for that matter use a capacitor?
If 'Yes' is it a flat 5/5 damange/heat or is it off the base damage of the weapon? Like say 50% so add 3/3 for the Light and 8/8 for the Heavy?
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| Posted: 25-Feb-2015 12:37 Post subject: Light PPC |
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Yes and it's flat 5 damage.
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2015 05:07 Post subject: Re: Light PPC |
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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | | Yes and it's flat 5 damage. |
So you get a PPC that can only fire every other turn for only 4 tons and at least 5 heat every turn.
That is wicked.
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