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PostPosted: 19-Jun-2013 16:55    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

my next question is not anything wrong with the design but an inquiry:

why wing mounted weapons when you have space in the nose?
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PostPosted: 19-Jun-2013 18:29    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

I was going for the "typical" fighter look, seeing this one more a turbine prop kind of fighter not a jet fighter.
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PostPosted: 19-Jun-2013 23:35    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

ok. Its just one of those minor peeves I have when a person has 3 weapons (3 ml) and 2 are in the wings. You usually can only fire with 2 because of it. GAH!

but look and style make it ok.
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PostPosted: 19-Jun-2013 23:50    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

You can always go for the push propeller on the back or for twin boom configuration like on OV 10 Bronco.
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PostPosted: 20-Jun-2013 00:05    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

ok, WTF! Conventionals dedicate 10% of mass to controls?

Why would a aircraft of one type with less sophisticated controls suddenly have a heavier cockpit than another? Should have read ton*0.10=weight (max 3t).
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PostPosted: 20-Jun-2013 02:18    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

This might be some terrible metagaming but:

AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED

Code:
Class/Model/Name:  P-14F
Tech:              Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type:       Conventional Fighter
Rules:             Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set:         AeroTech2

Mass:              20 tons
Length:            11 meters
Power Plant:       100 Turbine
Safe Thrust:       5
Maximum Thrust:    8
Armor Type:        Standard
Armament:         
    1 Light AC/2
    2 Machine Gun
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name:  P-14F
Mass:              20 tons

Equipment:                                                              Mass
Power Plant:  100 Turbine                                                6.00
Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 5
      Maximum Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity: 5                                                   .00
Total Heat Sinks:    0 Double                                             .00
Fuel:                                                                    3.00
Cockpit, Avionics & Attitude Thrusters:                                  2.00
Armor Type:  Standard  (20 total armor pts)                              1.50
                           Standard Scale Armor Pts
   Location:                            L / R
   Nose:                                  5
   Left/Right Wings:                   5/5
   Aft:                                   5

Weapons and Equipment      Loc        SRV    MRV    LRV    ERV  Heat    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Light AC/2               Nose         2      2     --     --    0      4.00
  Ammo (LAC/2) 45          ---                                           1.00
1 Machine Gun              RW           2     --     --     --    0       .50
1 Machine Gun              LW           2     --     --     --    0       .50
  Ammo (MG) 100            ---                                            .50
1 Targeting Computer                                                     1.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                                     Heat: 0     20.00
Tons Left:                                                                .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        247,647 C-Bills
Battle Value:      118
Cost per BV:       2,098.7
Weapon Value:      216 (Ratio = 1.83)
Damage Factors:    SRV = 6;  MRV = 2;  LRV = 0;  ERV = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 5,  Armor/Structure: 1 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: FL;  Point Value: 1


This unit is intended to load Flak AC ammo and a pair of LAA (Light Air-to-Air Missiles). The LAC/2 w/ Flak and TC gets a -3 to-hit against VTOL and other air units. Its only 2pts of damage, but any damage in atmo forces a PSR so hitting might be better in this case. The pair of LAAs give a heavy punch at 6 dmg each if you need it.
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PostPosted: 20-Jun-2013 05:23    Post subject: P-14 Falcon Reply to topic Reply with quote

I see your point on the weight issue thing. Even when I looked through the SV rules for fixed wing aircraft things don't get any better. I am starting to see that Conventional Aircraft and BT are not set up together very well.

Simple constructs are worse off then their high tech counter parts.

The F version of the Falcon seems to be a good mix and thank you for the ideas and direction you went with it.
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