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After reading Inner Sphere redesign after Inner Sphere redesign, I thought it might be fun to revamp some old and familiar Clan mechs as sort of personal challenge to myself. Wink

Now in these revamps, I took some liberties with improving the base chassis. Namely, making sure the chassis had an XL engine, Ferro, Endo, close to max armor as possible, and (depending on the needs of the chassis) an engine upgrade or downgrade. For the Nova, I decided to give it an engine upgrade, as it was a medium chassis. 8)

Below are my takes on the known variants in order.

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Nova

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3050
Cost: 11,413,125 C-Bills
Battle Value: 798

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.5 km/h
Maximum Speed: 96.75 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    18.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    83 points                2.50
    Internal Locations: 7 RT
Engine:             XL Engine                    300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         3.00
Heat Sinks:         Double                       12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard Gyro                                          3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 169                  9.00
    Armor Locations: 7 LT

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     16           24       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     12           16       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     8            16       
                                             L/R Leg     12           24       



================================================================================
Loadout Name: Prime (Custom)                                 Cost: 13,089,375
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,510

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double                       21(42)                    9.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 ER Medium Lasers                           RA        20        4         4.00
4 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        20        4         4.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 25
6j         6       6       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, ENE, SRCH, ES, SOA

Pretty simple upgrade for the prime variant. Removing 4 lasers for more heatsinks allowed for one more laser to fire without heat issues. Combined with the increase in speed and armor, allows for a solid medium mech.

Rounding out the design is an ECM suite to guard against Artemis IV, Narcs, Streaks, and Inner Sphere tactics. Wink
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Loadout Name: A (Custom)                                     Cost: 13,053,875
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,447

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double                       16(32)                    4.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
    CASE Locations: CT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       RA        15        2         6.00
ER PPC                                       LA        15        2         6.00
Anti-Missile System                          CT        1         1         0.50
Anti-Missile System                          HD        1         1         0.50
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    CT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 12

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 24
6j         3       3       3       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ENE, SRCH, ES, SOA

For this variant, I removed the medium pulse laser to make the ERPPCs able to fire with no issues. Virtually no difference after that, other than placement of crits. Rolling Eyes
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Loadout Name: B (Custom)                                     Cost: 12,471,188
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,794

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ultra AC/10                                  RA        3         4        10.00
Large Pulse Laser                            LA        10        2         6.00
@Ultra AC/10 (20)                            RA        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 17

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 18
6j         3       3       3       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

For this variant, I decided a bigger AC would be a nice addition to give to the mech, justifying the removal of the unnecessary backup weapons. With the base having two less heatsinks, I had enough tonnage to give the AC two rounds of ammo, plenty for trials and lightning raids. 8)
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Loadout Name: C (Custom)                                     Cost: 12,946,563
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,245

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                                  RA        1         6        12.00
3 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        15        3         3.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
@Gauss Rifle (16)                            RA        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 13

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 22
6j         4       4       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

For this variant, not only did I want to give the Gauss rifle more ammo, but I also wanted to give it a better backup array of weapons. So I stripped the srm and the small pulse laser for a trio of ER medium lasers. With the base chassis being two heatsinks less than the standard, I fit in the extra ton of ammo, and an ECM suite for protection. Wink
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Loadout Name: D (Custom)                                     Cost: 12,934,313
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,945

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
    CASE Locations: LA, RA                                                 0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 5-X AC                                    RA        1         4         7.00
LRM-20                                       LA        6         4         5.00
2 ER Medium Lasers                           CT        10        2         2.00
@LB 5-X (Cluster) (20)                       RA        -         1         1.00
@LB 5-X (Slug) (20)                          RA        -         1         1.00
@LRM-20 (12)                                 LA        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 11

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 19
6j         2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 1/1/1, IF 1

For this variant, I primarily wanted to add a backup set of weapons that would help reduce the vulnerability of the standard once the ammo ran out. This was easy as the spare tonnage from the base chassis allowed for two ER medium lasers in the center torso. 8)
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Loadout Name: E (Custom)                                     Cost: 13,334,063
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,283

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double                       15(30)                    3.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ATM-12                                       RA        8         5         7.00
3 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        15        3         3.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
@ATM-12 (HE) (10)                            RA        -         2         2.00
@ATM-12 (10)                                 RA        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 23
6j         4       4       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

For this variant, since I'm not a fan of ER ammo, I used the extra tonnage to round out the shots of HE ammo and regular ammo. The last ton went toward adding an ECM suite. No other changes were necessary. 8)
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Loadout Name: F (Custom)                                     Cost: 13,334,063
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,385

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
    CASE Locations: RA                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAG-20                                       RA        4         6        10.00
4 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        20        4         4.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
@HAG-20 (18)                                 RA        -         3         3.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 11

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 24
6j         4       4       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, FLK 1/1/1

For this variant, I mainly focused on using the spare tons from the base chassis to add another medium laser, and an ECM suite. Nothing else needed changing. 8)
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Loadout Name: H (Custom)                                     Cost: 12,815,625
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,151

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double                       20(40)                    8.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LA, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       RA        15        2         6.00
4 Heavy Medium Lasers                        LA        28        8         4.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 1

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 22
6j         5       5       2       0      2     1   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SOA

This variant changed the most, as I didn't have the space to support as many heavy medium lasers as the standard. Keeping four of the lasers in the left arm, I exchanged the other arm for one from the A variant to create a better heat managed design with a bit of long range punch. Wink
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Loadout Name: S (Custom)                                     Cost: 13,045,375
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,247

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 6  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         0.00
    CASE Locations: CT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 Medium Pulse Lasers                        RA        12        3         6.00
6 Machine Guns                               RA        0         6         1.50
3 Medium Pulse Lasers                        LA        12        3         6.00
6 Machine Guns                               LA        0         6         1.50
ECM Suite                                    CT        0         1         1.00
Active Probe                                 HD        0         1         1.00
@MG (200)                                    CT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 22
6j         7       5       0       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: OMNI, PRB, RCN, ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

Ah, this one was fun! Very Happy The extra tonnage saved from the base chassis allowed for a LOT more machine guns. Twisted Evil

Surprisingly, I still had enough tonnage for an ECM suite. Since this was an urban design, I thought an ECM suite would be a good idea to have (with streaks running rampant). Otherwise, I have an alternate version with four more machine guns. Rolling Eyes

That's all I got. What do you guys think? Any good? Anything that can be improved? Smile
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 14:26    Post subject: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

For this 'Mech I'll rise one question. What did you want to achieve? Respectively what did you want to achieve, that couldn't be achieved by just making a different configuration of the Storm Crow (Ryoken)? The same would actually apply to your Mad Dog (Vulture) and Nova Cat.

Aside from that what program do you use for creation of those record sheets?
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 14:50    Post subject: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

He is using the non-official Solaris Skunk Works mech maker program. It is a free program that was done up in to response to the issue with Rick not having HMP6 out and folks wanting to play with the new toys now instead of waiting for HMP6. Or he is using the online computer game Mega Mek to make the mechs.
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 14:59    Post subject: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heh, I was just going to look whether it isn't the HMP6 already Very Happy And just like you I also wanted to point him to Mk. Is for moar upgrades if he said it was the HMP... ah well Very Happy
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 16:14    Post subject: Re: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sleeping Dragon wrote:
For this 'Mech I'll rise one question. What did you want to achieve? Respectively what did you want to achieve, that couldn't be achieved by just making a different configuration of the Storm Crow (Ryoken)? The same would actually apply to your Mad Dog (Vulture) and Nova Cat.

Aside from that what program do you use for creation of those record sheets?


What I'm trying to achieve is to see what some of the watered down Clan mechs (and their variants) look like at their best, with a possible engine upgrade/downgrade and other touches of my own. Kind of like my own version of the MK 1 omnis. Wink

Besides I'm working on the Nova (Black Hawk) and it's variants here. It would defeat my purpose if I just took a Stormcrow and modified that. When I get to it, I'll look at its variants and determine its needs. Rolling Eyes

And yes these were done in SSW. 8)
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 17:20    Post subject: Re: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well I have a sick drive to seek perfection within things cannon. I was asking whether it wouldn't be beter to us the Stormcrow because there already is a 6/9 clan medium omni, so if someone wants to build another one, he'd better had a good reason to build it. I'm looking at designs as they were real hardware, so when there is another design it had better had a story behind it telling me why does it even exist. You don't build another tank when you can just modify the one you already have (reduces costs, spare parts...). Unless it's just a concept...
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PostPosted: 24-Feb-2010 23:37    Post subject: My take on the Nova Reply to topic Reply with quote

yah, you'll find that many of the people here are campaign orientated designers. We like to look at things from an in-universe perspective. So you might keep a heads up and just post at the beginning: concept design, otherwise we expect fluff and good reasoning.
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