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I took the BLR-1D, refitted it to 3060 tech, and packed in an electronics package befitting a C3 company commander.
| Code: | Type/Model: Battlemaster BLR-2D-C
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3058
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Hollis Mark X Standard
Power Plant: 340 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: StarGuard III Standard
Armament:
1 Martell Small Pulse Laser
1 Tiegart Magnum ER PPC
4 BlazeFire Longshot ER Medium Lasers
2 Kallon Sure-Shot C3-MU C³ Master Computers
1 Guardian Interface Model 2B Guardian ECM
1 Cyclops-Beagle Sensory Probe Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Tartarus Upgrades
Location: Field Upgrade
Communications System: HartfordCo COM 4000
Targeting & Tracking System: HartfordCo XKZ 1
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Type/Model: Battlemaster BLR-2D-C
Mass: 85 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 130 pts Standard 0 8.50
Engine: 340 Fusion 6 27.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 0 1.00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 263 pts Standard 0 16.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 27 40
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 18 27/27
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 9/9
L/R Arm: 14 28/28
L/R Leg: 18 36/36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Small Pulse Laser RA 2 1 1.00
1 ER PPC LA 15 3 7.00
2 ER Medium Lasers RT 10 2 2.00
1 C³ Master Computer RT 0 5 5.00
1 Guardian ECM RT 0 2 1.50
2 ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00
1 C³ Master Computer LT 0 5 5.00
1 Beagle Active Probe LT 0 2 1.50
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TOTALS: 37 53 85.00
Crits & Tons Left: 25 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 15,015,094 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,760 (old BV = 1,375) (+175 for C³)
Cost per BV2: 8,531.3
Weapon Value: 1,577 / 1,577 (Ratio = .90 / .90)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 19; MRDmg = 10; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 7/7
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1, Overheat: 2
Class: MA; Point Value: 18
Specials: ecm, c3m, c3m, prb |
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 24-Jul-2007 00:48 Post subject: |
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never liked the BLR-1D. Just something bout a BLR without a SRM 6 that just is not right. However, this does make good use of its features to make a worthy Company Command Mech. I also like the SPL over the MGs.
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jymset
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| Posted: 24-Jul-2007 04:10 Post subject: |
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Whoa, looking at your design made me realise for the first time, ever, that the the -1S wasn't the only 3025 BMer with inversed arms, the -1D suffered from the same symptom!
Apart from that, this would be a nice upgrade for 3050. Standing next to the CP-11-C it would be very convincing. Later on (like 3058) not so much anymore. It really does lack punch - even the CP has a headcapper, which this one is sorely lacking. But then, I really like the addition of all those electronic gadgets.
Oh, and I agree with Vagabond. TW has made MGs extremely redundant. So I am in full support of the SPL.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 24-Jul-2007 08:59 Post subject: |
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I think you should have gone with the dual cockpit on top of the electronics.
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Talen
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| Posted: 24-Jul-2007 23:16 Post subject: |
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Would the ComStar version of this just use one of the C3i devices?
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 03:42 Post subject: |
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Since there's no benefit from mounting two C3i systems, then yes.
| Code: | Type/Model: Battlemaster BLR-C3
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3062
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Hollis Mark X Standard
Power Plant: 340 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Valiant Lamellor w. CASE Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Blankenburg 200 ER PPC
2 Diverse Optics Small Pulse Lasers
6 Martell Medium Lasers
1 Improved C³ CPU
1 Apple Churchill Guardian Guardian ECM
1 Guided Technologies 2nd Gen Streak SRM 6
1 Apple Churchill Beagle Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Comstar
Location: Field Upgrade
Communications System: HartfordCo COM 4000
Targeting & Tracking System: HartfordCo XKZ 1
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Type/Model: Battlemaster BLR-C3
Mass: 85 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 130 pts Standard 0 8.50
Engine: 340 Fusion 6 27.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 0 1.00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 263 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 15.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 27 40
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 18 27/27
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 9/9
L/R Arm: 14 28/28
L/R Leg: 18 36/36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
2 Small Pulse Lasers LA 4 2 2.00
2 Medium Lasers RT 6 2 2.00
1 Medium Laser RT(R) 3 1 1.00
1 Improved C³ CPU RT 0 2 2.50
1 Guardian ECM RT 0 2 1.50
1 Streak SRM 6 LT 4 15 3 5.50
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
2 Medium Lasers LT 6 2 2.00
1 Medium Laser LT(R) 3 1 1.00
1 Beagle Active Probe LT 0 2 1.50
CASE Equipment: LT 1 .50
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TOTALS: 41 66 85.00
Crits & Tons Left: 12 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 11,398,344 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,842 (old BV = 1,503) (+204 for C³)
Cost per BV2: 6,188.03
Weapon Value: 1,941 / 1,831 (Ratio = 1.05 / .99)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 28; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 7/7
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 3
Class: MA; Point Value: 18
Specials: ecm, c3i, prb |
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 04:59 Post subject: |
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NOW THAT IS A BATTLEMASTER!!!!
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 05:51 Post subject: |
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Meh. I don't think it's particularly special. It's just my BLR-2G with the JJs ripped out and replaced with advanced electronics.
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 08:36 Post subject: |
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Wait if you have two C3 Masters then you can run to different networks correct? So if that is still true then there is a good need for the two Masters.
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 15:07 Post subject: |
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i think the difference there is the C3 Master that the DCMS (and others now) use and the C3i that ComStar Uses...
I think thats your question? Obviously the 2 Masters lets it control 2 Lances worth of C3 controlled mechs.
In that...find a way to make it a Company Commander!!! 3 Masters! BWAAAAHAHAHA.
it would be the least combat effective Battlemaster ever...but still a fine addition to the cause.
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 15:12 Post subject: |
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| Talen wrote: |
... Obviously the 2 Masters lets it control 2 Lances worth of C3 controlled mechs.
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Two Masters let it lead its own lance and connect it with two other Masters and their lances to a company network!
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 18:25 Post subject: |
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| Talen wrote: | i think the difference there is the C3 Master that the DCMS (and others now) use and the C3i that ComStar Uses...
I think thats your question? Obviously the 2 Masters lets it control 2 Lances worth of C3 controlled mechs.
In that...find a way to make it a Company Commander!!! 3 Masters! BWAAAAHAHAHA.
it would be the least combat effective Battlemaster ever...but still a fine addition to the cause. |
As Rudel indicated, you only need two Masters to run a Company sized C3. This can be done via 1 unit with 2 C3s or 2 units with 1 C3. Master computers can be slaved to another Master the same way a slave is slaved to a Master.
Thus a Master can control 3 Slaves or 3 Masters or 2 Slaves and a Master.
Thus 1 Master to control 3 slaves in Command Lance and 1 Master to control 2 Masters in Lance leaders.
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Thus 1 Master to control 2 slaves and 1 master in Command Lance and the other controlled Master to control 2 Masters in Lance leaders.
Even thou this could theoretically could all a 16 unit Network [5 masters; 2 in Company Command and 1 in each Lance Command] the technology is limited in capacity to 12 carrier singles [or in game turns, a 12 unit max C3 Network.]
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 21:03 Post subject: |
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Aight, my bad. Forgot that part *runs back to pour over the rulebook again*
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| Posted: 25-Jul-2007 23:59 Post subject: |
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Total Warfare, Page 132. The diagram for C3 Network Configuration 2 was the inspiration.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 26-Jul-2007 15:50 Post subject: |
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Weird c3-network-configurations there!
But if you have this composition of C3-equipped units: Why not? 
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