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Vagabond
Mercenary
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 Posted: 09-Feb-2006 12:12 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-02-09 09:02, ICER wrote:
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I've always found the Daishi to be more effective as a moving target than anything else.
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The Daishi moves?????....I guess I miss it when My Jenner flys by it...pelting it with SSRM missles and laser fire
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I'm sorry. If a pilot in a Daishi cannot smear your Jenner all over the place, he shouldn't be in that 'Mech. Every Diashi config has atleast 1 pulse laser with most having 3 or more. A Jenner will at best manage a +4 move mod, +2 woods, and +4 range or a total of +10 for MPLs or +8 for LPLs. The pilot will get a +6 himself. Factor in the Jenners heat curve and IS pilot against a Daishi's heat curve and Clan pilot, and the scales tip abit more towards even to-hits. This game goes to the Daishi for shear ferrocity of his barrage. At this point, it is a numbers game. The Daishi will fire 1.5 to 2 times as many weapons as a Jenner with all of them higher powered.
Now mind you, crap happens and Goliaths can be fell'd by a single stone, but during an average combat situation and not a 1v1 balance game the Jenner will loose most of the engagements, IMHO.
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ICER
Clan Hell's Horses
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| Posted: 09-Feb-2006 12:42 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Now Vaggie, Did I say anything about winning? All I said is I can run really fast, pelting it with fire and really piss off the beamouth for a few rounds, Then I die a horrible messy smelly burning death.
But what a rush. 
[ This Message was edited by: ICER on 2006-02-09 12:47 ]
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Slythis
Federated Suns
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| Posted: 09-Feb-2006 12:53 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-02-09 09:02, ICER wrote:
The Daishi moves?????....I guess I miss it when My Jenner flys by it...pelting it with SSRM missles and laser fire
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Even Mountains move ICER, it's just a matter oh how long you're willing to wait.
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ICER
Clan Hell's Horses
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| Posted: 09-Feb-2006 14:05 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-02-09 12:53, Slythis wrote:
Even Mountains move ICER, it's just a matter oh how long you're willing to wait.
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I'm not worried about the moutians, they don't fire nasty slugs of screaming metal, or redhot searing beams of lights.
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Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 10-Feb-2006 05:52 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Say that to Etna... You may get few red hot boulders flying your way in return. Again, if you wait long enough 
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Oafman
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2006 20:07 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Or you hope that you have pissed him off enough that he will head your direction and move into your ambush.
Don't worry, it is only a single Tie fighter... it must have gotten separated from a convoy.....
[ This Message was edited by: Oafman on 2006-02-13 20:09 ]
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WhizzbangThePowerSquig
Royal Black Watch Regiment
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2006 12:38 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Grand Titan, for sure. I've seen more Titans blow themselves up without doing anything to the enemy. Also saw the thing die to small laser fire on 2 different occaisions.
The Upgrades one seems better, though...
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mud
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2006 14:16 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Actually, when playing DC forces, I do a lot of swearing AT the Enforcer, because I've got to allocate two of my Panthers to make sure I take it down...and count of at least one of the Panthers probably getting mauled.
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WhizzbangThePowerSquig
Royal Black Watch Regiment
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2006 18:34 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-02-09 12:42, ICER wrote:
Now Vaggie, Did I say anything about winning? All I said is I can run really fast, pelting it with fire and really piss off the beamouth for a few rounds, Then I die a horrible messy smelly burning death.
But what a rush.
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Some guy did that to me. I was in a Daishi (Widowmaker), he had a Koshi. he kept running around me, shaving bits of my armour off while I never could land a solid hit. Then he tried to DFA...
There was no unmarked boxes on his record sheet after my alpha strike. I was hit with a rain of dust, and slime from the AC20 head hit 
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Pinhead
The Bloody Clans
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2006 19:23 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-01-31 18:34, Seraph wrote:
I'm gonna open a can of worms here....
Phoenix Hawk is imo THE most over-rated mech.
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Not when flown by a pilot who has even a shred of a clue.
The Atlas is the most over rated. Looks cool, but easy to kill.
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bladewind
Free Rasalhague Republic
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| Posted: 16-Mar-2006 12:14 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Most overrated mechs.
The Direwolf and Atlas. Sure they are 100 tonners, pack a mean load of weapons but they are often the first to be singled out and mauled to pieces.
The Atlas for all its awesome short range firepower is perfect pickings for PPC and LRM boats while the Dire Wolf will attract down company level focus fire till it hits the ground.
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Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
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| Posted: 16-Mar-2006 12:55 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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Concentrated firepower = ROE broken = claners concentrate fire ...
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Rudel Gurken
Allisters Light Thunder
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| Posted: 16-Mar-2006 14:06 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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The fact that these mechs are shot at first and by all don´t shows that they are overrated but that they are as dangerous as their reputation!
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Nightmare
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 16-Mar-2006 14:53 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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On 2006-03-16 12:55, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
Concentrated firepower = ROE broken = claners concentrate fire ...
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That's why you should just carpet bomb them. And their support functions.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
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| Posted: 16-Mar-2006 15:19 Post subject: RE: The most OVER-rated mech? |
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The biggest problem with clan players is they RARELY follow clan roe to begin with. Even Clan V Clan its the same. Rarely will you find a clan player that does follow thier roe.
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