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Wanallo
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Ok me and a friend are meeting up after christmas, and we set ourselves the challenge to put together an 8 mech team to pit against each other in a battle royal. Heres the scenario rules.
-8,500 points BV maximum
-No wieght restrictions
-will take place on 3x3 mapsheets of mixed terrain, most likely forest and scattered hills and lakes
-No clan tech, customs are allowed but must add 25% extra to their total bv,
-Any IS level 1 and two mechs can be used, regardless of ownership and rarity.
I would like to hear some of your suggestions, as i have no idea waht his team will be the question is whether to specify or diversify. The only mech that has been preselected is my REN renegade. but id like to here what you guys would field.
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| Posted: 13-Dec-2005 10:29 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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3 Warhammers and a Battlemaster. Spread in some Marauders.
Drown him in PPC-fire! Bwahahahahahahahaha!
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Seraph
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| Posted: 13-Dec-2005 18:07 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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Get a couple close in brawlers and support them with some long ranged mechs. LRM's or PPC's.
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Wanallo
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| Posted: 13-Dec-2005 19:10 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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Its the wieght profile that is key, i think, because im not sure on a well rounded team of say 2, 2, 2, 2 or perhaps a top heavy profile (2,3,2,1) etc.
We are playing a custom rule, like double blind, as the game starts all mechs are represented by a paper marker. Only when they come into line of sight do they be revealed, and that depends on the range
25+ Nothing revealed (too far to make out)
17-24 wieght class is revealed (though not its actual wieght)
12-16 Wieght is revealed
8-11 Mech model is revealed (i.e Centurion) real model is placed on map.
7- Variant is revealed.
I think this helps to place an emphasis on Recon mechs, so for me a spider would be a real good choice, or maybe a stinger. I need something which moves fast but doesn't cost to much, it has to be expendable.
On a side note, a BAP means that everything about the mech is revealed once inside the BAP's range, so maybe a Tech level two mech would be useful, perhaps a BAP medium mech. I know this isnt strictly keeping with what a BAP does, but it makes the fight interesting.Making choices crutial.
One final thing. In this fight, we also have 8 vehicles as support, there is no bv limit, just a wieght limit of 550 tons. During the initiative stages both players roll a dice, on a 5, two vehicles can be placed on the starting mapside, on a 6 four can be placed. We are setting aside a while day for this mother of all battles! So heavy ammo mechs might not be preferable, but then again the low mech BV limit means level 2 mechs with high heat tolerance might be too expensive.
See how it requires alot of thought? Its actually really fun putting so much thought into a fight though.
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WhizzbangThePowerSquig
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| Posted: 13-Dec-2005 19:49 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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As sort of an interesting pairing, use a 3050 Raven, and either a 3050 Catapult, or an O-Bakemono. With a 3x3 board, raining arrow-iv death from a ways away could really mess up your opposition.
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| Posted: 13-Dec-2005 23:47 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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why waste one of his 'mechs on an Arrow IV carrier...use a Padilla or Chapparal instead. Hell, use two of 'em 
just a bit more on vehicles...they make great fire support. Hunters are old favorites of mine...light vehicle with an LRM-20. Always a good thing if you're strapped for weight. I never did go for using vehicles for direct confrontation with 'mechs, or using hovercraft as backbiters. They just pop way too easily.
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2005 00:13 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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On 2005-12-13 19:49, WhizzbangThePowerSquig wrote:
As sort of an interesting pairing, use a 3050 Raven, and either a 3050 Catapult, or an O-Bakemono. With a 3x3 board, raining arrow-iv death from a ways away could really mess up your opposition.
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Heck if you want an Arrow IV Mech, screw the Catapult go with my Custom Hellfire HLF-2J. I have a variety of variants designed, but they are all on my lap top which is no available right now. Mostly the replace the ERPPC with another stand-off weapon and more ammo for the ARROW IV. If it has 4 ton of ammo, I usually split it 2 tons regular and 2 tons Homing. The Catapult is useless as an Artillery mech as it has such a limited supply of ammo. Feel free to customze it for your use. I just ask that if you use it you let me know how it performs for you. I've used it several times to good effect. Just be sure to take into account flight time for each salvo
Its BV is normally 1140, but for your scenario it would be 1425.
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2005 18:08 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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I agree on not wasting mechs with arty carriers. Use vehicles instead.
You want recon? Use a Savannah Master, J. Edgar, or Pegasus Hover tanks. They move real fast and can also strike and fade. Also, LRM carriers, Pikes, and Schreks are wicked useful. Also think about either Behemoths and Manticores. All are very nice, hit hard, and can take good abuse(except the LRM carrier).
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2005 18:41 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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I'm always iffy about relying on hovercraft for my recon...they may be quick, but they can't jump out of a tight spot, and they pop real easy. Another problem with hovertanks is they cannot really rely on terrain in the same way a light 'mech can. A light 'mech can dive into some woods; the hovertank has to drive around.
If you want something you can keep in LOS of a target, hovertanks are usually not the way to go.
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2005 21:22 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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Maybe he can use vtols?
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2005 21:44 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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Well if you are allowed to use customs you might want to check out my 30 ton Cheetah series mechs in the TRO section I have 8 variations that would make good recon or flanking units. unholy speed strong armour and a lot of differant weapon load-outs. I also have some 35 ton arty mechs the Balista and Lancer might float your boat.
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| Posted: 15-Dec-2005 00:19 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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On 2005-12-14 18:41, mud wrote:
If you want something you can keep in LOS of a target, hovertanks are usually not the way to go.
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My scouting Saladins have no trouble at all. 8/12 movement with an AC/20. What more do you need in a scout? Perhaps the LB-20X version of it?
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| Posted: 15-Dec-2005 00:57 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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alright...I'll give you the Saladin...those things are beastly
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Wanallo
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| Posted: 15-Dec-2005 06:46 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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On 2005-12-14 18:41, mud wrote:
I'm always iffy about relying on hovercraft for my recon...they may be quick, but they can't jump out of a tight spot, and they pop real easy. Another problem with hovertanks is they cannot really rely on terrain in the same way a light 'mech can. A light 'mech can dive into some woods; the hovertank has to drive around.
If you want something you can keep in LOS of a target, hovertanks are usually not the way to go.
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I thought the same thing, plus the fact that it would be unlikely that i would start with any vehicles. I also prefer the spider for its jumping. It would make it incredably hard to hit.
But i do like Shreks and Manticores, and the Arty vehicles do sound good too!
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| Posted: 15-Dec-2005 06:50 Post subject: RE: Need help with anupcoming fight |
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Ok, what about an Assault mech, im planning on a single assault, but im not sure what tactic to go for, im against pretty much anything from tech level two, since the BV will be too much of a liability id rather add some decent mediums and heavies.
I quite fancy the Battlemaster, I don't want anything too brawly, i dare not lose it to a lucky strike, I know he will concentrate his fire on it so id like to keep it well back. But have some decent close range fire in case he gets too close. Otherwise id go with the Longbow.
Any suggestions?
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