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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
Joined: 15-Jun-2005 00:00 Posts: 1470 Location: Germany
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Posted: 16-Jul-2005 16:21 Post subject: Claymore Medium Tank |
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What do you think?
Type/Model: Claymore Medium Tank
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 50 tons
Power Plant: 200 Nissan Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 LB 10-X AC
1 Anti-Missile System
2 Small Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Claymore Medium Tank
Mass: 50 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 25 pts Standard 0 5,00
Engine: 200 Fusion 0 8,50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 4,50
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 ,00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2,50
Crew: 4 Members 0 ,00
Turret Equipment: 0 1,50
Armor Factor: 184 pts Standard 0 11,50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 5 50
Left / Right Sides: 5 36/36
Rear: 5 26
Turret: 5 36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 LB 10-X AC Turret 0 20 2 13,00
1 Anti-Missile System Turret 0 12 2 1,50
2 Small Pulse Lasers Turret 4 2 2,00
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TOTALS: 4 6 50,00
Items & Tons Left: 9 ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2.133.250 C-Bills
Battle Value: 465
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00 Posts: 4820 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: 17-Jul-2005 12:47 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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Nice tank, almost classical example of it's kind. One big gun, vehicles won't like the LB-X too much, strong armor for it's size and average speed. Those small pulse lasers are probably there instead of MGs and AMS can help it to destroy some missile attacks.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 17-Jul-2005 15:10 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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I added the SPL´s cause i see them as a modern age MG, MdL don´t looked right in that place.
Since we play with the level 3 rule for infantery damage they do more damage to infantry than the MdL´s!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 17-Jul-2005 15:31 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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Yes I know this rule Tried replacing the SPLs with MPL? Same tonnage, damage and heat, double range.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 17-Jul-2005 15:48 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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This tank had an presecutor in RoboTech!
We constructed it about 14 years ago so i don´t know the exact RoboTech stats but it had 2 small pulselike anti infantry energy weapons above the turret! So we choosed the small pulse lasers.
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
Joined: 03-May-2002 00:00 Posts: 2214
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Posted: 17-Jul-2005 18:18 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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The LB-X is certainly my favorite AC/10! And as much as I despise the AMS it actually has some use for a vehicle. It will stop a few missile volleys, perhaps giving you time to fire the AC a few times more. The SPLs could be switched for MGs, though.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 06:23 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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I choosed the small pulse laser because of certain circumstances (see above).
The AMS has more use on vehicles than on mechs because any hit can destroy a vehicle (lots of deadly crits! ), so it can save you from death by a SRM-6 volley or such!
On Mechs only use AMS if you´re fully armored and can afford the weight.
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 06:54 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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For BattleTech I would change that (and maybe install some AMS ammo), but thats what are the field mods for (excuse my English, if it seems a little strange, but I'm unable to express myself better).
[ This Message was edited by: Sleeping Dragon on 2005-07-18 06:55 ] _________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 07:05 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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My english isn´t much better though
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
Joined: 02-Oct-2004 00:00 Posts: 1054 Location: Singapore
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 09:39 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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A fair vehicle but i can get a 60 ton ICE engine vehicle with a similar loadout and cheaper.
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Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 10:29 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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On 2005-07-18 09:39, bladewind wrote:
A fair vehicle but i can get a 60 ton ICE engine vehicle with a similar loadout and cheaper.
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But that one will count as a heavy vehicle if you ship it on a dropship. Keep it at 50 tons and it's light.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 18-Jul-2005 11:21 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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Thats right Save the heavy vehicle bays for Challengers ´n stuff!!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 19-Jul-2005 06:48 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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On 2005-07-18 11:21, Rudel Gurken wrote:
Thats right Save the heavy vehicle bays for Challengers ´n stuff!!
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Why get an XL engine tank when you can get 2 heavy mechs for the same price ?
Its a trade-off really. You can have something more expensive and lighter or something heavier while easier on the pockets.
And im leaning to the fatter and heavier tank since i always play games with monetary issues.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 19-Jul-2005 09:55 Post subject: RE: Claymore Medium Tank |
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Oh, it was just an example!
I don´t like Challengers anyway cause of there high cost and mad mix of weapons!
[ This Message was edited by: Rudel Gurken on 2005-07-19 09:56 ] _________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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