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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00 Posts: 4120 Location: United States
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 20:58 Post subject: AT-AP |
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Here is the pod walker that looks like a mech from the 3rd movie, it is seen in the fighting on Wookie Planet C (now if some can supply the name that Chewy calls his planet, they win a cookie)
This is my take, I am working on Inner Sphere version but this one worked well enough with Clan Tech.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: AT-AP
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 20 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 80 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Heavy Large Laser
2 Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: AT-AP
Mass: 20 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 33 pts Endo Steel 7 1.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 RT)
Engine: 80 XL Fusion 10 1.50
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 12 Double [24] 18 2.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 3 LT, 4 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro: 4 1.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 67 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 3.50
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 6 8
Center Torso (Rear): 2
L/R Side Torso: 5 8/8
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 2/2
L/R Arm: 3 6/6
L/R Leg: 4 8/8
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Heavy Large Laser LT 18 3 4.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser CT 4 1 2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser HD 4 1 2.00
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TOTALS: 26 68 20.00
Crits & Tons Left: 10 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,942,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 689
Cost per BV: 2,819.16
Weapon Value: 568 / 568 (Ratio = .82 / .82)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 13; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 2/1
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 7
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00 Posts: 5792 Location: United States
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 21:23 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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I personly think that these things, AT-PT, and AT-STs are better depicted as Protomechs.
_________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 21:27 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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Maybe, but since I feel Protomechs are not fully playtested have to many advantage, I will stick with these as mechs. They look like mechs, walk like mechs and the go BOOM like mechs do.
Besides, my group doesn't allow anyone to use Protomechs so it's mute point for me.
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00 Posts: 5792 Location: United States
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 21:32 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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On 2005-06-09 21:27, Karagin wrote:
Maybe, but since I feel Protomechs are not fully playtested have to many advantage, I will stick with these as mechs. They look like mechs, walk like mechs and the go BOOM like mechs do.
Besides, my group doesn't allow anyone to use Protomechs so it's mute point for me.
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LOL. i think your least worry is the protomech if your deploying SW units in a game.
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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 21:36 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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True...we do use SW stuff...one thing happen though, being half asleep since work kicked my butt one day, I didn't notice my buddies fighters seemed to be very familar when they attacked my drop ships...he comes in with a these things and tells me two lg. lasers are firing from this larged winged craft that looks like and hourglass.
About 35 minutes later, I am about ready to choke him when I tell him his TIE fighters are going down, he just grins and says wait tell you meet the folks with psionic powers on the planet. You know I still have to find where I tossed that set of dice I chucked at him...
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 09-Jun-2005 21:49 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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BTW... i just looked up the stats for the AT-AP and oh boy, no way i high heaven while you make a Protomech version of that thing.
In fact, your version needs some big changing.
This is my suggestion:
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: AT-AP
Tech: Clan / 3132
Config: Armless BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 70 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 280 Compact Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 ER Medium Laser
1 Thumper Artillery
1 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: AT-AP
Mass: 70 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 85 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 3 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 280 Compact Fusion 3 24.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Compact Gyro: 2 4.50
Torso-Mounted Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 6 4.00
Armless 'Mech 8 .00
Armor Factor: 173 pts Standard 0 11.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 22 33
Center Torso (Rear): 11
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 0 0/0
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00
1 Thumper Artillery LT 6 40 17 17.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 ER Large Laser HD(T) 12 1 4.00
CASE II Equipment: 1 .50
(CASE II Loc: 1 RT)
Turret Equipment: Head Turret 1 .50
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TOTALS: 23 71 70.00
Crits & Tons Left: 7 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 11,013,166 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,135
Cost per BV: 9,703.23
Weapon Value: 1,205 / 1,205 (Ratio = 1.06 / 1.06)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 16; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 4/5
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: MH; Point Value: 11
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/atap/
_________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
//^(^_^)^\\
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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00 Posts: 4120 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-Jun-2005 10:51 Post subject: RE: AT-AP |
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Either version works...one can be the direct front line fighter the other can be the support for the former.
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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