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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 12:36 Post subject: Limpet Class Cutter |
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These are the first line of defense for a battle group. They are the outlying pickets around your big ships, doing what they can to keep small craft (like fighters, dropships, and other Cutters) from reaching the big battleships, cruisers, and carriers.
Tell me what you think.
Class/Model/Name: Limpet
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 100,000 tons
Hull: L2 Standard
K-F Drive System: KF Mark LC
Length: 284 meters
Sail Diameter: 844 meters
Power Plant: GM Super Standard
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Armor Type: Templar X-Plate Ferro-carbide
Armament:
16 Buzzsaw AMS
32 Blankenburg 200 ER PPC
48 Blankenburg 25 ER Large Laser
72 Blankenburg Technologies Medium Pulse Laser
4 Light NPPC
Manufacturer: Delhi Warships
Location: No longer Produced
Communications System: Belden 405M
Targeting & Tracking System: Elsop Eagle-Eye 10
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Class/Model/Name: Limpet
Mass: 100,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 30,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 4) 45,250.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 1,000.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 3) 35.00
Structural Integrity: 101 10,100.00
Total Heat Sinks: 1,000 Double 711.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 1,071.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 250.00
Fire Control Computers: 624.00
Food & Water: (68 days supply) 43.50
Armor Type: Ferro-carbide (302 total armor pts) 201.50
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 57
Fore-Left/Right: 50/50
Aft-Left/Right: 50/50
Aft: 45
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (6) with 3 doors 900.00
Bay 2: Cargo (1) with 1 door 300.00
DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 2: (90-meter diameter) 100.00
Life Boats: 6 (7 tons each) 42.00
Escape Pods: 16 (7 tons each) 112.00
Crew and Passengers:
24 Officers (19 minimum) 240.00
50 Crew (41 minimum) 350.00
42 Gunners (32 minimum) 294.00
12 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 AMS(240 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 2 21.00
2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER Large Laser Nose 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
2 ER Large Laser Nose 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
2 ER Large Laser Nose 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
1 Light NPPC FL/R 7 7 7 -- 210 2,800.00
2 AMS(240 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER Large Laser FL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser FL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser FL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 AMS(240 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
2 ER PPC L/RBS 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC L/RBS 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER Large Laser L/RBS 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser L/RBS 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser L/RBS 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser L/RBS 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
1 Light NPPC AL/R 7 7 7 -- 210 2,800.00
2 AMS(240 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 4 42.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER Large Laser AL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser AL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 ER Large Laser AL/R 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 48 20.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) -- -- -- 24 12.00
2 AMS(240 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 2 21.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
2 ER Large Laser Aft 2(16) 2(16) 2(16) -- 24 10.00
3 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) -- -- -- 12 6.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%) 1,000.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,780 100,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 6,749,553,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 33,713
Cost per BV: 200,206.25
Weapon Value: 28,227 (Ratio = .84)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,378; MRV = 765; LRV = 398; ERV = 78
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 273,710
(83,605 Structure, 160,925 Life Support, 29,180 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 261,900 (96% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-06-01 12:37 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 12:55 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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Its a nice design. However, I question the use of a KF drive on a picket. Why not a defensive monitor?
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 13:23 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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Monitors didn't exist during the Star League, did they?
_________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 13:25 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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They didn't?
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 13:28 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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That's what I was asking.
_________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 13:30 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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I'm sure Warhammer has his own answer, but. . .
Putting a KF drive on it lets you take it with you when the fleet is on the move (read "on the attack") . Otherwise it just sucks up docking space on JumpShips, which could be used for supplies or ground troops. It'll need a KF drive, one way or another. Having its own makes it an asset, instead of a burden.
Also, you could use one to scout ahead before the rest of the fleet jumps. It can come back on its LF batteries and tell you if someone's sitting on your jump point. And if it doesn't come back, that tells you something too.
_________________ "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close semblance to the first."
- Attributed to General Aleksandr Kerensky
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 13:32 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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Humph. While I'm typing my reply there are three posts made.
I never even noticed the date on this ship. But Warhammer's got a point, I think. No monitors during the Star League.
_________________ "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close semblance to the first."
- Attributed to General Aleksandr Kerensky
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 14:30 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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What kind of ships defended Terra during Amaris war? Were these drone ships equipped with KF drives? Maybe some kind of monitors?
_________________ The dragon NEVER sleeps!
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 21:57 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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It always struck to me as an oddity while no monitors were made during the Star League.
A ship that isn't commission for ntersteller combat doesn't require KF drive if it was just part of a system defence fleet.
Also a Moniter will be vastly cheaper than any other KF equipped warships which means more can be constructed for system defence, instead of warships.
[ This Message was edited by: bladewind on 2005-06-01 21:57 ]
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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 22:54 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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^----What I ment to say but didn't feel like typing.
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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 23:57 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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The only thing close to monitors in the SL time period were the Casper Drone Ships and the other SDS vessels.
Also Monitors are LEVEL 3, some are non-jump capable and the ones that are NEED a Jumpship to carry them around, or a Warship, thus they end up being Uber-Dropships when all is said and done.
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
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Posted: 02-Jun-2005 00:05 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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On 2005-06-01 14:30, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
What kind of ships defended Terra during Amaris war? Were these drone ships equipped with KF drives? Maybe some kind of monitors?
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Casper Drone Ships, STRIPPED WARSHIPS that had no KF Drives.
Also please note that monitors are LEVEL 3, the ship here is a Level 2 ship that is part of the fleet and acts as out riders to AID in depletting the enemy attacking force, just as frigates and corvettes and other ships did in WW1 and WW2 and other naval battles. They engage the enemy vanguard, be it fighters or whatever, do as much damage as they can and then either die trying or end up playing cat and mouse with the main enemy fleet.
PT Boats come to mind on this one as an example. One could look at a lot of the fighting in the Pacfic in WW2 to get an idea of what Warhammer is trying to make here and in a space naval battle some thing like what he has in mind, would be around doing the job as he stated since it frees up fighters to be there for the main strike or to pounce on the attacking enemy fighters etc...
_________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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Motown Scrapper Clan Ice Hellions Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 03-Jun-2005 00:38 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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Againbst other warships this would be badly minced mint flavoured dog food but as a screen for a landing force to take on fighters or Assault Dropships it would be quite effective. I could see this ship performing the role of the WW II Corvette or sub chaser a small warship used for convoy escort to drive off or destroy Assault dropships and the like
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 03-Jun-2005 02:03 Post subject: RE: Limpet Class Cutter |
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On 2005-06-03 00:38, Motown Scrapper wrote:
Againbst other warships this would be badly minced mint flavoured dog food but as a screen for a landing force to take on fighters or Assault Dropships it would be quite effective. I could see this ship performing the role of the WW II Corvette or sub chaser a small warship used for convoy escort to drive off or destroy Assault dropships and the like
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Exactly what it's for.
_________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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