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Motown Scrapper
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Flower Class Corvette
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 200,000 tons
Hull: DeFoe type 6
K-F Drive System: Babcox & Wilcox no. 4 Standard
Length: 381 meters
Sail Diameter: 903 meters
Power Plant: Westinghouse mark VI Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Harvey Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
13 Medium NPPC
16 NL45
32 ER PPC
32 ER Large Laser
20 Laser AMS
Manufacturer: DeFoe Shipyards
Location: Toledo
Communications System: Decca High Link and Cosser HPG
Targeting & Tracking System: Ferranti Type 4
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==Overview:==
The Flower Class Corvette was the first Jump Capable Warship built by the
Outland Alliance and herolds the OLAs new more agressive foriegn policy
The current Flower Class Corvettes and there assignments are:
OLS Iris PC 01 1st Fleet
OLS Sunflower PC 02 2nd Fleet
OLS Rose PC 03 1st Fleet
OLS Gladioulis PC 04 2nd Fleet
OLS Tulip PC 05 3rd Fleet
OLS Perrywinkle PC 06 3rd Fleet
OLS Snapdragon PC 07 4th Fleet
OLS Daisy PC 08 4th Fleet
The Flower Class Corvetes are name after British naval vessels from WWII
==Capabilities:==
The Flower Clas Corvette is somewhat slow but carries a good armour load and
carries a decent weapon load .The all energy based load out simlpifies the
logistics situation since there is no ammunition to have to load and handle
and no need to skimp on gunnery practice to conserve ammo.
==Deployment==
There are two Flower Class Corvettes in each Naval Fleet.
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Class/Model/Name: Flower Class Corvette
Mass: 200,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 36,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 6) 90,500.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 2,000.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3) 40.00
Structural Integrity: 101 20,200.00
Total Heat Sinks: 1,990 Double 1,677.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,040.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 500.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (94 days supply) 114.50
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (545 total armor pts) 404.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 104
Fore-Left/Right: 90/90
Aft-Left/Right: 90/90
Aft: 81
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (16) with 4 doors 2,400.00
Cargo (1) 600.00
Bay 2: Small Craft (4) with 2 doors 800.00
Cargo (1) 600.00
Bay 3: Cargo (1) 1,185.50
Grav Deck #1: (150-meter diameter) 100.00
Life Boats: 41 (7 tons each) 287.00
Crew and Passengers:
24 Officers (22 minimum) 240.00
61 Crew (61 minimum) 427.00
43 Gunners (43 minimum) 301.00
64 Marines 320.00
52 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Medium NPPC Nose 18 18 18 18 270 3,600.00
2 NL45 Nose 9 9 9 9 140 1,800.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER Large Laser Nose 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 48 20.00
2 Medium NPPC FL/R 18 18 18 18 540 7,200.00
2 NL45 FL/R 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC FL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser FL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
2 Medium NPPC L/RBS 18 18 18 18 540 7,200.00
2 NL45 L/RBS 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser L/RBS 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
4 Laser AMS L/RBS -- -- -- -- 96 12.00
1 Medium NPPC AL/R 9 9 9 9 270 3,600.00
2 NL45 AL/R 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC AL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser AL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
4 Laser AMS AL/R -- -- -- -- 96 12.00
2 NL45 Aft 9 9 9 9 140 1,800.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER Large Laser Aft 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 48 20.00
4 Laser AMS Aft -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
1 Medium NPPC Aft 9 9 9 9 135 1,800.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.50%) 1,000.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 3,979 200,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 6,519,430,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 57,620
Cost per BV: 113,145.26
Weapon Value: 42,208 (Ratio = .73)
Damage Factors: SRV = 2,389; MRV = 2,149; LRV = 1,525; ERV = 547
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 409,811
(126,728 Structure, 201,250 Life Support, 81,833 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 152,152 (37% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
[ This Message was edited by: Motown Scrapper on 2005-05-09 03:18 ]
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| Posted: 08-May-2005 23:16 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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Nice work. A Corvette and a Patrol Carrier are excellent ship sizes for ships manufactured by a smaller power. Cheaper, and much more easily constructed than larger ships.
But...you posted the same carrier twice.
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Motown Scrapper
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 03:23 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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On 2005-05-08 23:16, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
Nice work. A Corvette and a Patrol Carrier are excellent ship sizes for ships manufactured by a smaller power. Cheaper, and much more easily constructed than larger ships.
But...you posted the same carrier twice.
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It would appear that I had a severe attack of cranal rectalitis that night...I had messed up the Flower Class Corvette Reconstruct on top of posting the wrong oneand did the same screw-up on CBT too but I have posted the correct and corrected TRO now. Check out the Bird Class Sloop to see the Flagships of the Naval Fleets
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 05:04 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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Just one thing: they should be faster. 3/5 is something I'd expect from a Cruiser or Battleship, not a Corvette.
Also, nix the L-F battery, it's KILLING the cost-efficiency.
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 05:34 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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Here's what I think would be a good redesign. It suffers a little in the armor department, but is faster, and slightly better armed (note that the missiles are tele-operated, meaning that you could probably turn all four missiles onto the same target).
Class/Model/Name: Flower
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 200,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 381 meters
Sail Diameter: 903 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
13 Medium NPPC
16 NL45
32 ER PPC
32 ER Large Laser
32 Laser AMS
4 Barracuda-T
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Class/Model/Name: Flower
Mass: 200,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 48,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 6) 90,500.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 3) 40.00
Structural Integrity: 70 14,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 2,000 Double 1,646.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 2,040.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 500.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (62 days supply) 64.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (378 total armor pts) 280.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 69
Fore-Left/Right: 63/63
Aft-Left/Right: 63/63
Aft: 57
Cargo:
Bay 1: Small Craft (1) with 1 door 200.00
Cargo (2) 250.00
Grav Deck #1: (90-meter diameter) 50.00
Crew and Passengers:
24 Officers (24 minimum) 240.00
62 Crew (61 minimum) 434.00
52 Gunners (49 minimum) 364.00
64 Marines 320.00
5 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Medium NPPC Nose 18 18 18 18 270 3,600.00
2 NL45 Nose 9 9 9 9 140 1,800.00
4 ER PPC Nose 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER Large Laser Nose 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 48 20.00
2 Laser AMS Nose -- -- -- -- 24 3.00
2 Laser AMS Nose -- -- -- -- 24 3.00
2 Medium NPPC FL/R 18 18 18 18 540 7,200.00
2 NL45 FL/R 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC FL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser FL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
2 Laser AMS FL/R -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
2 Laser AMS FL/R -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
1 Barracuda-T(12 msls) FL/R 2 2 2 2 20 920.00
2 Medium NPPC L/RBS 18 18 18 18 540 7,200.00
2 NL45 L/RBS 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser L/RBS 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
2 Laser AMS L/RBS -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
2 Laser AMS L/RBS -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
1 Medium NPPC AL/R 9 9 9 9 270 3,600.00
2 NL45 AL/R 9 9 9 9 280 3,600.00
4 ER PPC AL/R 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 56.00
4 ER Large Laser AL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 96 40.00
2 Laser AMS AL/R -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
2 Laser AMS AL/R -- -- -- -- 48 6.00
1 Barracuda-T(12 msls) AL/R 2 2 2 2 20 920.00
2 NL45 Aft 9 9 9 9 140 1,800.00
4 ER PPC Aft 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 60 28.00
4 ER Large Laser Aft 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 48 20.00
2 Laser AMS Aft -- -- -- -- 24 3.00
2 Laser AMS Aft -- -- -- -- 24 3.00
1 Medium NPPC Aft 9 9 9 9 135 1,800.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.50%) 1,000.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 4,163 200,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,753,872,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 62,184
Cost per BV: 28,204.55
Weapon Value: 38,105 (Ratio = .61)
Damage Factors: SRV = 2,440; MRV = 2,135; LRV = 1,521; ERV = 548
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 432,675
(85,882 Structure, 259,400 Life Support, 87,393 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 306,450 (71% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-05-09 05:43 ]
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 05:46 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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I think you paid too high a price for the added speed you have given up a LOT of armor between the reduced tonnage and the down grade to regular FC in stead of the Lamilor as well as the loss of fighter protection and you have reduced the cargo transfer ability while adding an ammo dependent system of limited capability.You have also reduced the Cargo Capacity to a ridiculously low level and the L-F Battery significantly enhances the vessels ability to respond to a threat in a different system from where it is located.You are sacrificing to much to the bean counters IMHO.
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 09:15 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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Exactly what do you think you'll be hauling? Ammo? You just said that ammo-dependent weapons are not on your menu. Food? That comes under "Food & Water Supply". Fuel? That's the Fuel Tank's job. Medical supplies I would believe, but you don't need over 2,000 tons of medical equipment.
Fighter protection. That's what Patrol Carriers are for. I can see an aerospace company (squadron?) of 6 fighters on a ship, but 18 per seems excessive.
As for the rest...what can I say? I was drunk.
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 20:14 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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The loss of armor and Fighters dont make up for the speed.
Remember this could be a mainline ship for a smaller power, so it must be like a pocket cruiser. Speed MUST BE lost for armor and firepower (in terms of the airwing).
So i think Scrapper did a better job.
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| Posted: 09-May-2005 20:51 Post subject: RE: Flower Class Corvette |
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On 2005-05-09 09:15, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
Exactly what do you think you'll be hauling? Ammo? You just said that ammo-dependent weapons are not on your menu. Food? That comes under "Food & Water Supply". Fuel? That's the Fuel Tank's job. Medical supplies I would believe, but you don't need over 2,000 tons of medical equipment.
Fighter protection. That's what Patrol Carriers are for. I can see an aerospace company (squadron?) of 6 fighters on a ship, but 18 per seems excessive.
As for the rest...what can I say? I was drunk.
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O.K. first some background on the Outland Alliance The standard fighter squadron has 4 4 plane lances for a total of 16 (not 18) planes.If you go down the thread you can find the organization of the ODF the Flower Class Corvette is intended to be able to work independently as needed firepower and protection is important all systems have at least one SDV and 6-12 PMCs to hold the line until the jump capable ships arrive as far as cargo space goes in addition to food Water and spare parts also needed are supplies for cleaning and hygiene office supplies personal effects recreation equipment and supplies just to name a few.on a long mission on your design the personnel would very quickly become VERY bored and stinky.
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