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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 17:23 Post subject: What's the deal with Marik? |
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What fighting style does the Marik Military emphasize?
The Kuritans prefer fast, hit-and-fade fighting, the Lyrans are top-heavy with heavies and assaults and prefer to slug it out on the line, the Davions have a flexable fighting style with a little of everything, and the Capellans like masses of cheap-but-effective 'mechs and vehicles.
What does Marik have?
_________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
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Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Sergeant
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 18:04 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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Whatever the committee decides is best....
_________________ "My job is to keep the majority of people in this country alive. That's it. If fifty-one percent eat a meal tomorrow and forty-nine percent don't, I've done my job." - The Beast (AKA The President), Transmetropolitan
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Moonlapse Vertigo Clan Goliath Scorpion Star Captain
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 19:01 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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Long range fighting (LRMs, Gauss and Light Gauss) use teamwork / combined fire to take down enemy mechs, emphasis on iniative and small unit actions, prefer the medium weight class, blow the crap of the enemy with artillary before you engage them.
[ This Message was edited by: Moonlapse Vertigo on 2005-04-21 19:07 ]
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mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 19:36 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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The Free Worlds League's units vary widely in quality and disposition. Most of the best units are provincial; units like the Regulan Hussars, Fusiliers of Oriente, and Defenders of Andurien. The legions later formed the core of the Free Worlds Legions, which took their combined arms approach from the Defenders of Andurien.
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SaberDance Federated Suns Colonel
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 21:48 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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My impression from the sourcebooks is that there is no "deal" with Marik.
It's more like "How does Oriente fight." "How does Regulus fight." et cetera. _________________ "Politics is the Art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, misdiagnosing the problem, and applying the wrong solution."
-Groucho Marx
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Blackhand Draconis Combine Chu-i
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 22:48 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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Basically. Marik is committee based with marginal from the top ability. But at the same time if the Marik house head tells Regulas that they can't make X or Y mech, regulas is just as likely to say screw you marik and start revolt 32542341234.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 23:09 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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well that is what you get if u closely resemble a UN in layout with all the committee and stuff.
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Moonlapse Vertigo Clan Goliath Scorpion Star Captain
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 23:16 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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I don't think you guys understand the Free Worlds League very well.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 23:20 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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never did. Their political antics are either too subtle or look too stupid for a simpleton like me.
At least Sun Tzu Liao does it with a certain flair.
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Moonlapse Vertigo Clan Goliath Scorpion Star Captain
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Posted: 21-Apr-2005 23:50 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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Maybe I shouldn't have ed, but there is more to the League than just political infighting.
Yes, they do have their own tactical doctrine.
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Blackhand Draconis Combine Chu-i
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Posted: 22-Apr-2005 01:10 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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Ever seen what happens when the overall commander gets killed. Their units belong to various dutchy's and sub political groups.
None of whom work together as a cohesive unit which is why none of them like to fight in close because you can't depend on your "friendly" troops to properly support you.
THus there dependance upon long range combat and raids.
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Moonlapse Vertigo Clan Goliath Scorpion Star Captain
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Posted: 22-Apr-2005 01:45 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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One advantage of the decentrilzed structure is , no one has to wait for an acknowalagement from higher commander to start a raid and they are good in small unit engagements.
But they are less good at large operations like planatary assaults in which different commands have to work together.
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 22-Apr-2005 02:02 Post subject: RE: What's the deal with Marik? |
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So, lemme see if I get this right.
Draconis Combine: Coordinated force using fast-moving troops. Keep up the pressure, and don't let the enemy rest.
Capellan Confederation: Masses of low-cost but effective units. Expect casualties, but overall numbers make up for it.
Lyran Commonwealth: Disproportionate numbers of heavy and assault 'mechs compared to other weights. Steady advances and solid defensive lines are the norm.
Federated Suns: Good mix of all weights and troop types. Tactical and strategic flexability is emphasized.
Free Worlds League: Prefer long-ranged fighting. Decentralized command structure makes low-intensity, small unit engagements preferred over conflicts requiring large, coordinated efforts.
_________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Khayman Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Corporal
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Posted: 22-Apr-2005 02:35 Post subject: RE: What\'s the deal with Marik? |
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That seems about right but isn\\\'t that assuming only till 3050 or so?
Capellans are now fielding lots of more cutting edge mechs and because of their small numbers I thought that their tech rating was quite high now. Their sourcebook didn\\\'t even have any D or F class mechs. Only A B C.
Marik troops are starting to come together now. Thomas Marik (real/fake doesn\'t matter) seems to be doing a decent job at orchestrating large scale operations. Maybe not all the FWLM units are like that but many of the newer ones do.
Kurita strategy hasn\'t really seen to much change, rather it looks as though they are improving on their unit coordination and teamwork now. (C3\'s and all that good stuff) Before they used to place a lot of emphasis on honor and one on one combat was normal for a Drac.
Steiner . . . I don\\\'t think they really changed at all.
Davion\\\'s already benefitted from their flexibility but with all the new tech and designs being produced, they just got better as well.
I must also agree with my fellow Blood Spirit. The infighting, while is more well known for a Marik, shouldn\\\'t be what defines them. The FWLM are coming together nicely now and seem more stable as of late, especially when compared to the other houses. The Alshain Avengers of the DCMS going rogue causing the Ghost Bear Drac war or what about the DEST assassination attempt on Theodore? The whole Fed-Com civil war can also be considered infighting. Doesn\\\'t anyone remember what happened to the Gray Death legion? And Lao is still trying to peacefully incorporate the St. Ives and deal with Free Capella. Marik has done a lot better in centralizing the power and decisions to him. Of course theirs still unrest within his borders but their is political infighting in all the houses, even Comstar and the Periphery.
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Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Sergeant
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Posted: 22-Apr-2005 03:27 Post subject: RE: What\'s the deal with Marik? |
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THe FWL also houses a nest of vipers close to its heart...
_________________ "My job is to keep the majority of people in this country alive. That's it. If fifty-one percent eat a meal tomorrow and forty-nine percent don't, I've done my job." - The Beast (AKA The President), Transmetropolitan
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