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ralgith
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BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Killer Bee KB-01
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: V.T.O.L.
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 70 Omni XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Arrow IV System
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Untitled
Mass: 30 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 70 XL Fusion 2 1.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 .50
Cruise MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Rotor Equipment: Main/Tail Rotors 0 3.00
Armor Factor: 48 pts Standard 0 3.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 18
Left / Right Sides: 3 10/10
Rear: 3 8
Rotor: 3 2
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Arrow IV System Front 0 15 2 18.00
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TOTALS: 0 4 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 7 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,470,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 704
Cost per BV: 3,508.52
Weapon Value: 181 / 181 (Ratio = .26 / .26)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 12; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2: MP: 7V, Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/2, Overheat: 0
Class: VA; Point Value: 7
Specials: artA
[ This Message was edited by: ralgith on 2005-03-18 10:52 ]
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Oafman
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 11:15 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Now that is some fast fire support.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 11:41 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Wow. Place them right off the edge of the board, and let them loose.
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ralgith
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 13:16 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Or if using Offboard unit rules... place them 2-3 maps away 
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Oafman
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 13:34 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Even if you are playing on 7-8 maps, these can stay way back. With this kind of speed you can keep them back from the action fairly easily. Although I can see a 'Bee killer" light that is super fast with LBx ACs.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 17:10 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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On 2005-03-18 13:34, Oafman wrote:
Even if you are playing on 7-8 maps, these can stay way back. With this kind of speed you can keep them back from the action fairly easily. Although I can see a 'Bee killer" light that is super fast with LBx ACs.
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or Streaks or a crap load of MGs.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2005 19:34 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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On 2005-03-18 13:34, Oafman wrote:
Even if you are playing on 7-8 maps, these can stay way back. With this kind of speed you can keep them back from the action fairly easily. Although I can see a 'Bee killer" light that is super fast with LBx ACs.
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or a VTOL mounting a class 20 autocannon
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ralgith
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| Posted: 19-Mar-2005 08:38 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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LOL, and to think I only made this cause someone asked about mounting A-IV on VTOLs hehehe.
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 14:10 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Like this?
Big Bird (homage to Warhammer: 3025)
30 tons
7/11
ICE 70 - 4 tons
internal structure - 3 tons
rotor - 3 tons
controls - 1.5 tons
armour - 2.5 tons (F: 20, S: 8, Rotor: 2, R: 2)
1 AC20 - front - 14 tons
2 tons ammo - body - 2 tons
Whats the BV for this baby? Its cost is 1 100 000 according to the Vehicle Factory, is that right?
Sure, it's slower than the Saladin, but has slightly more armour, and is lighter. It is also more flexible as far as terrain goes, but all up a lot more vulnerable. If my numbers are correct, it also costs almost 200 000 more than the HOvertank. Yeah, a BV comparison would be interesting. (Really need to get HMV)
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 14:17 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Total Cost: 1,090,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 746
Cost per BV: 1,461.13
Weapon Value: 101 / 101 (Ratio = .14 / .14)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 2; LRDmg = 0
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 15:10 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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How can this be? How can the BV be about 300 pts higher than that of the Saladin?
I've only used VTOLs once or twice - they have a nasty habit of dying.
So, how is it that my design is meant to be so much superior?
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 15:35 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Versatility in maneuver, probably. The Saladin is a hover, restricted to certain types of terrain. Your chopper, on the other hand, can move wherever it pleases, completely ignoring terrain.
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 16:09 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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Maybe this will help. I've not read through it yet, so I have no insight to offer. But I assume it's some difference between hovers and VTOLs. As Warhammer says, a VTOL cares little for terrain.
BATTLE VALUE CALCULATION FOR Saladin Assault Hover Tank
(Hovercraft) (Validated Design)
DEFENSIVE BATTLE RATING CALCULATION:
Total Armor Factor 32
Total Internal Structure Points / 2 16 / 2 = 8
Total BV of all Defensive Equipment 0
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40
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Multiply by Vehicle Modifier (Hovercraft = 0.6) x 0.6
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At full Flank of 12, Movement Modifier is + 4, so = 24
Multiply by Defensive Movement Factor of 1.4 x 1.4
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DEFENSIVE BATTLE RATING = 33.6
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OFFENSIVE BATTLE RATING CALCULATION:
Offensive Weapons:
1 Autocannon/20 + 3 T ammo 178 + 3 x 20 = 238
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Base Weapon Battle Rating = 238
Calculate Speed Factor
Flank MP + Jump MP 12 + 0 = 12
Speed Factor = 1.89
Offensive Battle Rating = Modified Battle Rating x Speed Factor
238 x 1.89 = 449.82
OFFENSIVE BATTLE RATING = 449.82
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Total BV = Defensive BV + Offensive BV: 33.6 + 449.82 = 483.42
TOTAL BATTLE VALUE FOR 'VEHICLE = 483
BATTLE VALUE CALCULATION FOR Big Bird (Jymset)
(V.T.O.L.) (Validated Design)
DEFENSIVE BATTLE RATING CALCULATION:
Total Armor Factor 40
Total Internal Structure Points / 2 15 / 2 = 7.5
Total BV of all Defensive Equipment 0
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47.5
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Multiply by Vehicle Modifier (V.T.O.L. = 0.4) x 0.4
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At full Flank of 11, Movement Modifier is + 5, so = 19
Multiply by Defensive Movement Factor of 1.5 x 1.5
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DEFENSIVE BATTLE RATING = 28.5
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OFFENSIVE BATTLE RATING CALCULATION:
Offensive Weapons:
1 Autocannon/20 + 2 T ammo 178 + 2 x 20 = 218
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Base Weapon Battle Rating = 218
Calculate Speed Factor
Flank MP + VTOL MP 11 + 11 = 22
Speed Factor = 3.29
Offensive Battle Rating = Modified Battle Rating x Speed Factor
218 x 3.29 = 717.22
OFFENSIVE BATTLE RATING = 717.22
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Total BV = Defensive BV + Offensive BV: 28.5 + 717.22 = 745.72
TOTAL BATTLE VALUE FOR 'VEHICLE = 746
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 16:14 Post subject: RE: Killer Bee KB-01 |
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There it is. Even slower, the VTOL has a much higher movement factor than the hover, which significantly increases its BV.
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