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StarRaven
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 Posted: 06-Mar-2005 21:38 Post subject: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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On 2005-02-15, jymset wrote:
Well, this is an unexpected design. Very much a city-fighter, highly mobile with lots of anti-infantry and anti-armour weapons. It is also very flexible, due to the JJ and PL.
However it is surprising how the other variants actually field much more raw killing power. And the JJ, despite the honourable mention above, just don't seem to be a very Timberwolf-ish attribute.
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I have no questions/compaints about jymset's review. But I do have a general question.
Are jump jets really not Timber Wolf-ish? Or rather, do you guys see jump jets as being not Timber Wolf-ish?
[ This Message was edited by: StarRaven on 2005-03-06 21:39 ]
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Erenon
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2005 21:42 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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Just feels a little wierd to see jumping Timber Wolf's... they are better packing more weaponry.. kinda like a fast moving (ground-wise) arsenal...
Leave the jumping to Summoners..
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Blackhand
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2005 22:13 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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I'll agree with Eneron on this one. The Timber Wolf always struck me as the heavy mech with all the guns, but was ground bound.
Its common opponent was the Summoner which had less weapons but jump capable. The ability to add Jets to a OMNI mech always struck me as work and a fundamental error in cannon ways.
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2005 22:26 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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On 2005-03-06 22:13, Blackhand wrote:
I'll agree with Eneron on this one. The Timber Wolf always struck me as the heavy mech with all the guns, but was ground bound.
Its common opponent was the Summoner which had less weapons but jump capable. The ability to add Jets to a OMNI mech always struck me as work and a fundamental error in cannon ways.
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Precisely. Some 'mechs are decidedly unbalanced (in regards to being a stable flyer). The Timber Wolf seems to me as quite top-heavy, and I doubt it would be able to land reliably.
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bladewind
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2005 22:28 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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i always thoughts the timber is slightly heavvy on the top with all those missile racks and really huge torso.
the pliot would really have his hands full unless its a pilot like Pryde who has a Mad Cat Pryde and can handle a jumping Timber.
[ This Message was edited by: bladewind on 2005-03-06 22:30 ]
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2005 23:54 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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It's probably a rare variant? (Checking) Ah, anti-BattleArmor operations. The jumpjets needed to get beyond swarming range are REALLY good to have on this one. 
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Erenon
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2005 00:03 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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I kinda agree that Jump Jets ought to be built into the chassis of a Mech.. even an Omni.. but we don't set the rules...
Way i see it, Jump Jets add God awful amounts of stress on the Mech when it's landing.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2005 01:01 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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I am the only one to vote that JJ are Timberwolfish? /shrug This is the timberwolf I generally use it have the ability to just rip things abart.
Technology Base: Clan 3050
Tonnage: 75
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: Endo Steel 4
Engine: 375 XL 19.5
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 5
Heat Sinks: 16 [32] 6
Gyro: 4
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 231 12.5
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Internal
Structure Armor
Value
Head 3 9
Center Torso 23 35
Center Torso (rear) 11
R/L Torso 16 24
R/L Torso (rear) 8
R/L Arm 12 24
R/L Leg 16 32
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
2 ER Medium Lasers LA 2 2
LRM 15 (Ammo 16) LA 2 2
ER Medium Laser LT 1 1
2 ER Small Lasers LT 2 1
LRM 15 LT 2 3.5
2 Jump Jets LT 2 2
Jump Jet CT 1 1
2 ER Medium Lasers RA 2 2
LRM 15 (Ammo 16) RA 2 2
ER Medium Laser RT 1 1
2 ER Small Lasers RT 2 1
LRM 15 RT 2 3.5
2 Jump Jets RT 2 2
Targeting Computer LA 1 1
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Still cant figure this remark out.
Oh and Starraven I redid this one for you (since it didnt follow the rules of a true timberwolf)
[ This Message was edited by: Stinger on 2005-03-07 01:02 ]
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Blackhand
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2005 05:26 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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| Only the Jade Falcon pod setup adds Jump Jets.
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cain
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2005 12:51 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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Never could see a jumping Timber Wolf as normal always saw it racing across the field blazing away with more lasers than u thoght was possible then launching a storm of missiles 
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Karagin
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2005 14:46 Post subject: RE: User Review: Mad Cat S (JJs on Timber Wolf) |
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To me it's not a question about if it's the mech or not kind of thing. It's more of a question of are they needed yes or no.
The Timberwolf is an Omnimech and that means just about anything can end up on it at one point or another, so having Jump jets means that it was needed for the mission at hand, like say a fight in city or a rocky foot hills area etc...
So I can't really vote since I am more of looking at the mission and then picking weapons for Omnis and I wouldn't turn down jump jets since they would be more of help then a hinderence.
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