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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 15:36    Post subject: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

Okay seeing how the last one went, which was interesting, here is another version of the wheel or hover challenge:


Take a 35 ton vehicle, using IS tech, (levle 2) it must move at least 7/11, have at least 9 tons of armor( you can use ferro) and a LRM15 on it. Every thing else, like fusion, or ICE or other armaments or use of other construction materials, it carries is up to you the builder.

The challenge here is to get all of this to fit on BOTH a wheeled chassis and a hover chassis. Fluff is welcome, and would be appericated, but if you can't come up with any that is fine. Please be original and not revamp an existing design.

Looking forward to the ideas and have fun with this one.

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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 15:54    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

9 tons is a lot of armor for light tank.
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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 16:04    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

But it makes sense for the hover, where your only weapon is an LRM 15.

And I doubt you'll hear the crews complaining about their tanks having too much armor.

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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 16:15    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

Screw the fluff

Type/Model:    Sobel (Wheeled) 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Wheeled Vehicle
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          35 tons
Power Plant:   225 Various XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type:    Various Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:      
  1 LRM 15 
Manufacturer:  Various
  Location:    Various
Communications System:  Various
Targeting & Tracking System:  Various

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sobel (Wheeled) 
Mass:          35 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  20 pts Standard               0      3.50
Engine:        225 XL Fusion                 2      5.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      2.50
    Cruise MP:   7
     Flank MP:  11
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      2.00
Crew: 3 Members                              0       .00
Turret Equipment:                            0      1.00
Armor Factor:  161 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2      9.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     4         49 
   Left / Right Sides:        4      32/32 
   Rear:                      4         21 
   Turret:                    4         27 

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 15                 Turret   0   40     2     12.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          6     35.00
Items & Tons Left:                           6       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,131,375 C-Bills
Battle Value:      557
Cost per BV:       5,621.86
Weapon Value:      290 / 290 (Ratio = .52 / .52)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 5;  MRDmg = 7;  LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2:      MP: 7W,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 6
                   Specials: if

_________________________________
Type/Model:    Sobel (Hover) 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          35 tons
Power Plant:   70 Various XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type:    Various Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:      
  1 LRM 15 
Manufacturer:  Various
  Location:    Various
Communications System:  Various
Targeting & Tracking System:  Various

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Sobel (Hover) 
Mass:          35 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  20 pts Standard               0      3.50
Engine:        70 XL Fusion                  2      4.67
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      2.33
    Cruise MP:   7
     Flank MP:  11
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      2.00
Crew: 3 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      3.50
Turret Equipment:                            0      1.00
Armor Factor:  161 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2      9.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     4         49 
   Left / Right Sides:        4      32/32 
   Rear:                      4         21 
   Turret:                    4         27 

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 15                 Turret   0   16     2      9.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          6     35.00
Items & Tons Left:                           6       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,037,167 C-Bills
Battle Value:      443
Cost per BV:       4,598.57
Weapon Value:      290 / 290 (Ratio = .65 / .65)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 5;  MRDmg = 7;  LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2:      MP: 7H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 4
                   Specials: if

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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 20:39    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

It is a lot but let's just work it and see what you can come up with.

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PostPosted: 04-Mar-2005 22:10    Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 Reply to topic Reply with quote

I couldn't really think of a good name. Without a name I can't really fluff. I've got a fluff idea, though, so if I ever think of a good name you'll see it.

          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                      VALIDATED

Type/Model:    Rattler W2 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Wheeled Vehicle
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          35 tons
Power Plant:   225 GM XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type:    StarGuard CIV Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:      
  1 Valiant Arbalest LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV
  2 BlazeFire Longshot ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  Jalastar Aerospace
  Location:    Panpour
Communications System:  Garret T-20C
Targeting & Tracking System:  BlazeFire Sightlock

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Rattler W2 
Mass:          35 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  20 pts Standard               0      3.50
Engine:        225 XL Fusion                 2      5.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      2.50
    Cruise MP:   7
     Flank MP:  11
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      2.00
Crew: 3 Members                              0       .00
Turret Equipment:                            0      1.00
Armor Factor:  161 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2      9.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     4         36 
   Left / Right Sides:        4      33/33 
   Rear:                      4         23 
   Turret:                    4         36 

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV   Turret   0   16     2     10.00
2 ER Medium Lasers       Turret  10          2      2.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          10          8     35.00
Items & Tons Left:                           4       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,401,625 C-Bills
Battle Value:      733
Cost per BV:       4,640.69
Weapon Value:      677 / 618 (Ratio = .92 / .84)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 15;  MRDmg = 12;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 7W,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 7
                   Specials: if

          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                      VALIDATED

Type/Model:    Rattler H2 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3060
Config:        Hovercraft
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          35 tons
Power Plant:   210 General Motors XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  118.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 183.6 km/h
Armor Type:    StarGuard CIV Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:      
  1 Valiant Arbalest LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV
Manufacturer:  Jalastar Aerospace
  Location:    Panpour
Communications System:  Garret T-19G
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret E2b

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Rattler H2 
Mass:          35 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  16 pts Standard               0      3.50
Engine:        210 XL Fusion                 2      4.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      2.50
    Cruise MP:  11
     Flank MP:  17
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      2.00
Crew: 3 Members                              0       .00
Lift Equipment:                              0      3.50
Armor Factor:  161 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2      9.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     4         54 
   Left / Right Sides:        4      41/41 
   Rear:                      4         25 

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV   Front    0   16     2     10.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                           0          6     35.00
Items & Tons Left:                           6       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        4,522,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      651
Cost per BV:       6,946.24
Weapon Value:      393 / 327 (Ratio = .60 / .50)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 6;  MRDmg = 8;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 11H,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 7
                   Specials: if


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