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Karagin
Imperial Karagin Army
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 Posted: 04-Mar-2005 15:36 Post subject: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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Okay seeing how the last one went, which was interesting, here is another version of the wheel or hover challenge:
Take a 35 ton vehicle, using IS tech, (levle 2) it must move at least 7/11, have at least 9 tons of armor( you can use ferro) and a LRM15 on it. Every thing else, like fusion, or ICE or other armaments or use of other construction materials, it carries is up to you the builder.
The challenge here is to get all of this to fit on BOTH a wheeled chassis and a hover chassis. Fluff is welcome, and would be appericated, but if you can't come up with any that is fine. Please be original and not revamp an existing design.
Looking forward to the ideas and have fun with this one.
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Seraph
Blighted Sun Battalion
2nd Company
"Seraph's Slaughter"
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2005 15:54 Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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9 tons is a lot of armor for light tank.
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StarRaven
Federated Suns
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Joined: 01-Jun-2004 00:00
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Location: United States
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2005 16:04 Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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But it makes sense for the hover, where your only weapon is an LRM 15.
And I doubt you'll hear the crews complaining about their tanks having too much armor.
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Warhammer: 3025
Freelance
Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
Joined: 29-Jan-2005 00:00
Posts: 1856
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2005 16:15 Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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Screw the fluff 
Type/Model: Sobel (Wheeled)
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 35 tons
Power Plant: 225 Various XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type: Various Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 LRM 15
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Sobel (Wheeled)
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 3.50
Engine: 225 XL Fusion 2 5.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.50
Cruise MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.00
Armor Factor: 161 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 9.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 49
Left / Right Sides: 4 32/32
Rear: 4 21
Turret: 4 27
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 LRM 15 Turret 0 40 2 12.00
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TOTALS: 0 6 35.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 3,131,375 C-Bills
Battle Value: 557
Cost per BV: 5,621.86
Weapon Value: 290 / 290 (Ratio = .52 / .52)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5; MRDmg = 7; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 7W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: -/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 6
Specials: if
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Type/Model: Sobel (Hover)
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Hovercraft
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 35 tons
Power Plant: 70 Various XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type: Various Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 LRM 15
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Sobel (Hover)
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 3.50
Engine: 70 XL Fusion 2 4.67
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.33
Cruise MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Lift Equipment: 0 3.50
Turret Equipment: 0 1.00
Armor Factor: 161 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 9.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 49
Left / Right Sides: 4 32/32
Rear: 4 21
Turret: 4 27
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 LRM 15 Turret 0 16 2 9.00
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TOTALS: 0 6 35.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,037,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 443
Cost per BV: 4,598.57
Weapon Value: 290 / 290 (Ratio = .65 / .65)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5; MRDmg = 7; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 7H, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: -/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 4
Specials: if
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Karagin
Imperial Karagin Army
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2005 20:39 Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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It is a lot but let's just work it and see what you can come up with.
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Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball
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StarRaven
Federated Suns
Leftenant General
Joined: 01-Jun-2004 00:00
Posts: 1138
Location: United States
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2005 22:10 Post subject: RE: Design Challenge Wheeled or Hover 2 |
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I couldn't really think of a good name. Without a name I can't really fluff. I've got a fluff idea, though, so if I ever think of a good name you'll see it.
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Rattler W2
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 35 tons
Power Plant: 225 GM XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type: StarGuard CIV Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Valiant Arbalest LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV
2 BlazeFire Longshot ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Jalastar Aerospace
Location: Panpour
Communications System: Garret T-20C
Targeting & Tracking System: BlazeFire Sightlock
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Type/Model: Rattler W2
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 3.50
Engine: 225 XL Fusion 2 5.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.50
Cruise MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.00
Armor Factor: 161 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 9.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 36
Left / Right Sides: 4 33/33
Rear: 4 23
Turret: 4 36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV Turret 0 16 2 10.00
2 ER Medium Lasers Turret 10 2 2.00
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TOTALS: 10 8 35.00
Items & Tons Left: 4 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 3,401,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 733
Cost per BV: 4,640.69
Weapon Value: 677 / 618 (Ratio = .92 / .84)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 7W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 7
Specials: if
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Rattler H2
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Hovercraft
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 35 tons
Power Plant: 210 General Motors XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 118.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 183.6 km/h
Armor Type: StarGuard CIV Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Valiant Arbalest LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV
Manufacturer: Jalastar Aerospace
Location: Panpour
Communications System: Garret T-19G
Targeting & Tracking System: Garret E2b
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Type/Model: Rattler H2
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 16 pts Standard 0 3.50
Engine: 210 XL Fusion 2 4.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.50
Cruise MP: 11
Flank MP: 17
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Lift Equipment: 0 3.50
Armor Factor: 161 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 9.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 54
Left / Right Sides: 4 41/41
Rear: 4 25
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV Front 0 16 2 10.00
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TOTALS: 0 6 35.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,522,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 651
Cost per BV: 6,946.24
Weapon Value: 393 / 327 (Ratio = .60 / .50)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 6; MRDmg = 8; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 11H, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 7
Specials: if
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