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Karagin
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 Posted: 13-Feb-2005 17:12 Post subject: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Okay I need to fluff it out, but what do you folks think of it so far?
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Fury IIC
Tech: Clan / 2750
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 80 tons
Power Plant: 320 Pitban Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: PyroTec ArmorSlab Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 M-9 Gauss Rifle
1 Medium Pulse Laser
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: Jolassa Armored Vehicles
Location: Tybalt
Communications System: HIV-13
Targeting & Tracking System: Quadrant XD
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Type/Model: Fury IIC
Mass: 80 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 40 pts Standard 0 8.00
Engine: 320 Fusion 0 22.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 11.50
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 4.00
Crew: 6 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 250 pts Ferro-Fibrous 1 13.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 8 70
Left / Right Sides: 8 50/50
Rear: 8 40
Turret: 8 40
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle Turret 0 16 2 14.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser Turret 4 1 2.00
1 ER Small Laser Front 2 1 .50
1 Targeting Computer 1 3.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 0 .00
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TOTALS: 6 6 80.00
Items & Tons Left: 15 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,653,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 955
Cost per BV: 4,873.04
Weapon Value: 1,397 / 1,397 (Ratio = 1.46 / 1.46)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 17; LRDmg = 9
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 10
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/2, Overheat: 0
Class: GA; Point Value: 10
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 19:47 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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That's one nasty-looking tank. Just goes to show how much more powerful the Clans could be if they got their head out of their collective bum and started fighting heart and soul. Keeping a beast like this on garrison duty just seems like a waste.
Just one complaint: Increase the ammo load on the Gauss Rifle. Mechwarrior taught me several things about battletech: 1) Warhammers rock. 2) If your primary weapon is ammo-based, bring a heaping helping of munitions.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 21:30 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Okay one thing, the computer game isn't Battletech. What works there doesn't work in the board game.
16 shots for the Gauss is more then enough for any fight and given how the rules work against vehicles, the ammo as it is will be around for two to three turns, is more then enough.
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 21:39 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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On 2005-02-13 21:30, Karagin wrote:
Okay one thing, the computer game isn't Battletech. What works there doesn't work in the board game.
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You're right, of course. 
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 21:52 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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In the Comp games it's been my experience that you need 2-5 times as much ammo as you need on the board. Unless you're damn good, which I never played enough to be. My rl friend Eric however could rip apart damn near anything with his customized Vulture (Mad Dog) in MW2. Nasty Nasty Nasty  . He hits at long range like I hit at somewhat shorter quite a bit of somewhat to be truthfull heh. I was however good enough to beat the game, so I didn't totally suck it up.
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 22:18 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Neat tank. One question: When did the clans start using conventional vehicles?
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| Posted: 13-Feb-2005 23:20 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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They all do.. too some degree or another. Whether they use them in comabt or not is a better questions.
Hells Horses is famous for fielding tanks in battle.
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 02:37 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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On 2005-02-13 23:20, Erenon wrote:
They all do.. too some degree or another. Whether they use them in comabt or not is a better questions.
Hells Horses is famous for fielding tanks in battle.
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An 80 ton tank is nothing to leave for garrison duty. Or if it is, it's guarding something important that "honorable" opponents wouldn't attack.
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Erenon
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 02:38 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Well, these are the clans you are talking about.
Who knows what is sensible to them?
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 07:59 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Sensible, to the clanners, is to minimize waste.
Building 80 ton tanks just for laughs is a waste. Leaving that tank to guard something unimportant is also a waste.
Having it guard something only outcasts would attack might be worth it. You don't waste a mech on it, but any pirate is going to get a gauss slug in the face for showing up.
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 10:07 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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On 2005-02-13 22:18, Seraph wrote:
Neat tank. One question: When did the clans start using conventional vehicles?
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Since there founding...if you will note in the last couple of TROs there have been Clan vehicles in them, everythhing from IFVs to AFVs to VTOLs.
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 10:10 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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On 2005-02-14 02:37, Nightmare wrote:
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On 2005-02-13 23:20, Erenon wrote:
They all do.. too some degree or another. Whether they use them in comabt or not is a better questions.
Hells Horses is famous for fielding tanks in battle.
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An 80 ton tank is nothing to leave for garrison duty. Or if it is, it's guarding something important that "honorable" opponents wouldn't attack.
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Who said it was guarding anything? It is more likely going to be used in a second line unit, and mostly like by one or more of the Invading Clans and some of the Home Clans like the Horses (though I think they are now an Invading clan) or Spirits. Also I could see the Sharks using it as well.
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| Posted: 14-Feb-2005 16:07 Post subject: RE: Fury IIC Second Line Clan tank |
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Honestly, I think it's undergunned. Four-and-a-half million c-bills (or whatever Clanners have) is a lot for a second-line gauss rifle with 4/6 movement. I don't think that Blood Spirits, for example, would even consider it. Too expensive. And Blood Spirits are supposed to be the second biggest vehicle users after the Horses. But I admit that I'm not an expert on Clan society.
It is nicely armored though.
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