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PostPosted: 15-Apr-2002 18:51    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

Below is one of the "uber" mechs I ran into this weekend during one hell of a battle. I am not sure who actually made this mech, my friend had it in his files and he told me it wasn't his...so as to the hows and whys and what fors I haven't a clue...

Anyway here is the mech:


Type/Model: Thunderbolt - C
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 260 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 Anti-Missile Systems
2 ER Medium Lasers
2 Ultra AC/20s
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Thunderbolt - C
Mass: 65 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Standard 0 6.50
Engine: 260 XL 10 7.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 2 1.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 RL)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 CT, 2 LL)

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Anti-Missile System RA 1 48 3 2.50
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA)
1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 Anti-Missile System LA 1 1 .50
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 Ultra AC/20 RT 7 20 12 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT)
1 Ultra AC/20 LT 7 8 12.00
1 ER Small Laser HD 2 1 .50
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TOTALS: 42 71 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 7 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 13,066,873 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,686
Cost per BV: 7,750.22
Weapon Value: 1,668 / 1,668 (Ratio = .99 / .99)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 36; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 5/4/-, Overheat: 4
Class: MH; Point Value: 17


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PostPosted: 15-Apr-2002 20:12    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

looks like an inflated hunchback IIC.

2 erml's, 2 uac/20's.

the er sl is a throw back to the hunchback. an the twin ams's, while not overly helpfull will keep missile mechs at bay for at least 2 turns.

but i can see the AMS's being changed for 3 jump jets. drop 0.5 armor, n the ersl, n you get 4. plop them in the legs, n you've got a hunchback IIC with ammo.


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PostPosted: 15-Apr-2002 20:19    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

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you've got a hunchback IIC with ammo.



And armor

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 07:53    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

So this is a better version of a FASA mech at 65tons then at the actually version in use by the Clans now?

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 10:17    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-16 07:53, Karagin wrote:
So this is a better version of a FASA mech at 65tons then at the actually version in use by the Clans now?




Here. you tell me.

            BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Hunchback IIC 
Tech:          Clan / 3055
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          50 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   200 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  2 Ultra AC/20s
  2 ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Hunchback IIC 
Mass:          50 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  83 pts Endo Steel             7      2.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
Engine:        200 XL                       10      4.50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     12 Double [24]               8      2.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   96 pts Standard              0      6.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8      
   Center Torso:             16         18      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  4      
   L/R Side Torso:           12      12/12      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              3/3      
   L/R Arm:                   8        6/6      
   L/R Leg:                  12      12/12      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Ultra AC/20            RT      7   10     10     14.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT)
1 Ultra AC/20            LT      7           8     12.00
2 ER Medium Lasers       CT     10           2      2.00
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      2.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS:                         38          74     50.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           4       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        8,110,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,524
Cost per BV:       5,321.52
Weapon Value:      933 / 933 (Ratio = .61 / .61)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 38;  MRDmg = 18;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/4/-,  Overheat: 3
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 15




Although this one has some real firepower. It is shag with armor. And is slow for it's weight class. Yours (Although in a diffrent weight class)Would stay in a fight longer. and in the end. that is all that really matters. can you stand longer than the enemy.

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[ This Message was edited by: ICER on 2002-04-16 10:35 ]

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 10:22    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

I was asking you guys. I already know how will it perfroms.......having been on the reciving end of the dual UACs...

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 10:27    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-16 10:22, Karagin wrote:
I was asking you guys. I already know how will it perfroms.......having been on the reciving end of the dual UACs...




In a word

IT SUCKS

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 10:32    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hey your comments under the HTML or what ever code got cut off again...

Which sucks? The H-back IIC or the Tbolt C?

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 10:38    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-16 10:32, Karagin wrote:
Hey your comments under the HTML or what ever code got cut off again...

Which sucks? The H-back IIC or the Tbolt C?




Yeah, I am still working out the bugs with it. PRE is not the easiest code to work with.

But to answer your question. The H-back IIC pretty much blows. But what really sucks. is falling under it's sights when it cuts loose. That is a big time, OUCH

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 11:56    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

It's not bad if you have run 15 to get there, or jumped 10, or you are in a 100 ton, fully armored Mech....Otherwise I agree, receiving gifts from dual Ac20s Suck.

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PostPosted: 16-Apr-2002 13:28    Post subject: Thunderbolt - (C ) Reply to topic Reply with quote

I lost a 75ton CAV mech conversion called the Regent, to this bloody monster...ALL FOUR SHOTS from the UACs hit...Three of them caved in the entire right torso...blew up one gauss and set off the LRM ammo the mech was carrying...and tore the XL right out of the mech...

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