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CO_17thRecon
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 Posted: 04-Sep-2003 23:22 Post subject: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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Originally, this machine was designed to kill 'Mechs mounting XL engines, though I think it has enough power to stop anything with a concentrated torso smash. I'm not sure I'm completely happy with weaponry though. Any thoughts welcome. I imagine I should move some weapons into the arms, I kept them free for close combat, but at 3/5/3, that's only like in forests and cities.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Heartbreaker HRT-4F
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 [64.8] km/h
Jump Jets: 3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Autocannon/10
1 ER PPC
1 ER Large Laser
4 ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Heartbreaker HRT-4F
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 300 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3 [4]
Running MP: 5 [6]
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Triple Strength Myomer: 6 .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 306 pts Standard 0 19.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 45
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Autocannon/10 RT 3 40 11 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 4 RT)
1 ER PPC LT 15 3 7.00
1 ER Large Laser LT 12 2 5.00
1 ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser HD 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser LL 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser RL 5 1 1.00
1 Targeting Computer LT 7 7.00
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 6.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
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TOTALS: 50 68 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 10 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 13,410,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,939
Cost per BV: 6,915.94
Weapon Value: 2,884 / 2,884 (Ratio = 1.49 / 1.49)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 21; MRDmg = 14; LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1, Overheat: 4
Class: MA; Point Value: 19
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Vagabond
Mercenary
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 04:16 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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again, just cause i'm tired of 100 tonners.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: HeartTaker
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Mass: 95 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 285 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: 3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 LRM 10
1 LB 20-X AC
4 ER Medium Lasers
1 Large Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: HeartTaker
Mass: 95 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 145 pts Standard 0 9.50
Engine: 285 6 16.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 293 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 16.50
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 8 LA, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 30 45
Center Torso (Rear): 15
L/R Side Torso: 20 30/30
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 16 32/32
L/R Leg: 20 40/40
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 LRM 10 RA 4 12 3 6.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 LB 20-X AC RA 6 10 13 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
2 ER Medium Lasers RT 10 2 2.00
1 Large Pulse Laser LT 10 2 7.00
2 ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00
1 Targeting Computer LT 7 7.00
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 6.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
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TOTALS: 40 78 95.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,586,940 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,823
Cost per BV: 5,807.43
Weapon Value: 2,088 / 2,088 (Ratio = 1.15 / 1.15)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 15; LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 7/7
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 4
Class: MA; Point Value: 18
Specials: if
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 07:28 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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You have the Heartbreaker, now where's Tom Petty????
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CO_17thRecon
Kell Hounds
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 10:33 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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I like yours Vagabond. I'm not a big fan of missile weapons (not that they don't have their uses) but I think I should look a bit more at your HeartTaker. It's got some good design features.
As for a Tom Petty 'Mech...well, I don't know much about them, but could be fun to design some 'Mechs around a band...
[ This Message was edited by: CO_17thRecon on 2003-09-05 10:35 ]
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Slythis
Federated Suns
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 11:04 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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oOo that gave me an idea..... ^_^ I should design a series of mechs around my favorite band... 
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CO_17thRecon
Kell Hounds
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 11:39 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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How is this? A compormise of sorts...
Note: If you don't like the normal AC, switch it out for an LBX. I just like normal ACs, especially with the new ammunitions.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Heartbreaker HRT-4B
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 255 Strand Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: 3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV
4 ER Medium Lasers
1 Autocannon/10
1 Large Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Heartbreaker HRT-4B
Mass: 85 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 130 pts Endo Steel 14 4.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 5 LA, 3 RA, 4 LT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 255 6 13.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 256 pts Standard 0 16.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 27 38
Center Torso (Rear): 15
L/R Side Torso: 18 28/28
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 14 28/28
L/R Leg: 18 33/33
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 LRM 15 w/ Artemis IV RA 5 16 6 10.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RA, 1 RT)
2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00
1 Autocannon/10 RT 3 30 10 15.00
(Ammo Locations: 3 RT)
1 Large Pulse Laser LT 10 2 7.00
1 ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser HD 5 1 1.00
1 Targeting Computer LT 6 6.00
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 3.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
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TOTALS: 38 77 85.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 8,807,110 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,672
Cost per BV: 5,267.41
Weapon Value: 1,862 / 1,808 (Ratio = 1.11 / 1.08)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 18; LRDmg = 6
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 6/7
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 3
Class: MA; Point Value: 17
Specials: if
[ This Message was edited by: CO_17thRecon on 2003-09-05 11:42 ]
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Nightmare
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 12:35 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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Once you get down to 80 tons I'll buy! I've long thought that the Hatamoto-anything chassis would be perfect as the basis for a real killer mech. Time to dig out the designer...
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Slythis
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 12:48 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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HRT-4T Heartbreaker
Chassis: Unknown
Power Plant: Unknown 320
Cruising Speed: 43
Maximum Speed: 64.5
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown
Armament:
1 Autocannon/10
1 Large Pulse Laser
1 LRM 10
2 ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
HRT-4T Heartbreaker
Technology Base: - Inner Sphere - Level 2
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: - EndoSteel 4
Engine: 320 22.5
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 4
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - Double 0
Gyro: 4
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 223 - Ferro-Fibrous 12.5
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head 3 9
Center Torso 25 33
Center Torso(rear) 11
R/L Torso 17 23
R/L Torso(rear) 6
R/L Arm 13 25
R/L Leg 17 31
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
Large Pulse Laser LA 2 7
Autocannon/10 LT 7 12
Autocannon/10 Ammo - Armor-Piercing LT 3 3
Jump Jet LL 2 1
Jump Jet RL 2 1
LRM 10 RA 2 5
LRM 10 Ammo RA 1 1
ER Medium Laser CT 1 1
ER Medium Laser CT 1 1
Hows that?
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 16:00 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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On 2003-09-05 10:33, CO_17thRecon wrote:
I like yours Vagabond. I'm not a big fan of missile weapons (not that they don't have their uses) but I think I should look a bit more at your HeartTaker. It's got some good design features.
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i just kept the heart of your design idea, an xl hunter. i just figured BIG GUN, so i upgraded the ac 10 to a 20. then settled on the lb 20-x because of its range of 12 vs 9. Was going to drop the ER MLs for MLs but decided not to to keep them in line with the AC. then i had an idea while looking over the weapons, the best way to xl hunt is to hit when you target. so switched out the hot er ppc for a cooler LPL that gives -2 to hit. then lastly i was looking over the design going TO HOT! so i decided to drop the ER LL, settling on a missile weapon to reduce the direct fire weapons load on the TC. lastly i tossed in FF because i had 14 crits left and could use an armor boost.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 16:04 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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hmmmm.... well its got the weapons. its got speed, but its missing the heart [pun intended] of the idea. the TC.
For that much speed, you might get away with a light engine.
on its own thou, you've got a well rounded design. infantry be weary.
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Slythis
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 16:35 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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I was justing trying to fofill Nightmare's request for an 80 tonner. by leaving it at 3/5 movment and 3 jump I could've had the exact same weapons as the 85 tonner. I was just adding my own little touch to it, I'm a big fan of jumping mechs (though oddly enough most of my designs lack JJs) I design a lot of mechs but feel most of them aren't up to standards. Theres a lot of design talent here and I often find that I've designed a great mech... and someone has already posted it, or it's an FASA design. a perfect example of that is the Marader III I posted. I hadn't checked the Project Pheonix updates before posting it.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2003 17:24 Post subject: RE: Level 2: Heartbreaker HRT-4F |
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post them anyway and let others tell you they already exist. lol.
i've done a dozen accident remakes. but when you don't know, and design an already existent good mech. then your on the right track.
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