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Karagin
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Okay I am looking for idea on which form of craft should I use to make the Republic Gunship (LAAT/i) from SW2...
Should I go with the Small Craft, Aerodyne DS, or a VTOL for this?
Also I know it has 3 anti-infantry lasers, 2 missiles launchers, 8 air to air rockets (not sure how this one be done via AT2) and a cargo hold that can hold a platoon of infantry.
So which do you folks think would be the best vessels or craft for this?
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Jade_Dragon
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 15:50 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Sounds like a small craft to me, a VTOL is going to be too light.
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 18:37 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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it would have to be a V/STOL capable craft.
and you forgot that it carried 4 swoops also.
then on top of that, you need a vehicle carrier variant.
so keep your options open.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 19:44 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Okay Take One:
AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Low Altitude Assault Transport (LAAT)
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerodyne Small Craft
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 200 tons
Length: 17 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
2 Large Pulse Laser
4 Thunderbolt 5
2 Streak SRM 4
2 Small Pulse Laser
1 Medium Pulse Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Low Altitude Assault Transport (LAAT)
Mass: 200 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 65.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity: 10 10.00
VSTOL Equipment: 10.00
Total Heat Sinks: 11 Double 8.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 5.50
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 1.50
Fire Control Computers: .00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (416 total armor pts) 21.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 104
Left/Right Wings: 104/104
Aft: 104
Cargo:
Bay 1: Infantry (foot) Platoons (1) with 2 doors 5.00
Crew and Passengers:
3 Crew (3 minimum) 21.00
2 Gunners (2 minimum) 14.00
28 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 Large Pulse Laser Nose 9 9 -- -- 20 14.00
2 Thunderbolt 5 RW 5 5 -- -- 6 6.00
2 Thunderbolt 5 LW 5 5 -- -- 6 6.00
Ammo (T-Bolt 5) 24 --- 2.00
1 Streak SRM 4 RW 8 -- -- -- 3 3.00
1 Streak SRM 4 LW 8 -- -- -- 3 3.00
Ammo (Streak 4) 25 --- 1.00
1 Small Pulse Laser RW 3 -- -- -- 2 1.00
1 Small Pulse Laser LW 3 -- -- -- 2 1.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser Aft 6 -- -- -- 4 2.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 46 200.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 17,770,100 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,574
Cost per BV: 11,289.77
Weapon Value: 2,874 (Ratio = 1.83)
Damage Factors: SRV = 30; MRV = 15; LRV = 0; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 3,962
(1,036 Structure, 2,300 Life Support, 626 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 3,940 (99% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 10 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-, Overheat: 3
Class: DS; Point Value: 16
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 21:25 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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oh.... i just checked the info on the LAAT.....
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/republicgunship/index.html
"Weapon:
3 anti-personnel laser turrets, 4 composite-beam laser turrets, 8 light air-to-air rockets, 2 mass-driver missile launchers"
"The two primary armaments are mass-driver cannons capable of propelling projectiles to hypersonic velocities. Once airborne, a rocket's internal guidance systems take over, allowing it to home in on designated targets."
the rockets are fired from the mass drivers... and there are 4 turrets: 1 on each side, 1 on each wing.
just thought you should know.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 22:40 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Yes had all that via DK books on the moives...I think I came close...I am thinking of making a second version that is all cargo...any ideas for that one?
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[ This Message was edited by: Karagin on 2002-11-12 22:55 ]
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 23:18 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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i'd say that it atleast has to have a vehicle bay.... prefreably a 100ton bay, but a 50t is ok.
ie: it drops off the walkers and stuff.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2002 23:24 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Right, but I am not sure about the AT-TE...I mean it's a sixed walking APC...not sure how to do that one...
I will play around with the LAAT and see what I can come up with for the cargo version....
How close do you think I came with my version compared to the original?
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 03:09 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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well, your 2 missile systems over, and 2 lasers under.
plus your nose guns should be the same as your rear gun.
i like the thunders, but i think your door gunner like lasers should be straight lasers and not pulses. remember that there are also 2 wing mounted laser exactly like the door lasers.
other then that, i like.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 13:53 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Thought about that, but I wasn't sure how to do the two door mounts...so I went with the wing mounts instead...
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 14:30 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Side mounted. For Aero type that would be wing mounted since you cannot have side mount as you would for Spheriod?
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 14:33 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: LAAT
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: V.T.O.L.
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 130 Vlar Fusion
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
7 Small Lasers
2 Thunderbolt 5s
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: LAAT
Mass: 30 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 12 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 130 Fusion 0 4.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.25
Cruise MP: 9
Flank MP: 14
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Rotor Equipment: Main/Tail Rotors 0 3.00
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 .20
Armor Factor: 32 pts Standard 0 2.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 8
Left / Right Sides: 3 8/8
Rear: 3 8
Rotor: 3 0
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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3 Small Lasers Front 3 3 1.50
2 Small Lasers Rt_Spon 2 2 1.00
2 Small Lasers Lf_Spon 2 2 1.00
1 Thunderbolt 5 Left 0 12 2 4.00
1 Thunderbolt 5 Right 0 12 1 4.00
Infantry Bay Body 1 2.05
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TOTALS: 7 11 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,449,100 C-Bills
Battle Value: 890
Cost per BV: 1,628.2
Weapon Value: 129 / 129 (Ratio = .14 / .14)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 6; LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2: MP: 9V, Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: VA; Point Value: 9
Specials: tran2
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 15:43 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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And this does what??? :-]
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 16:31 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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Uhmmm have you seen SW2? And the battle sceen where the clone troops arrvive and fight the droids?
These are my take on SW gunship...an fast hard hitting infantry gunship...
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2002 17:54 Post subject: RE: Looking for ideas... |
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its damn near impossible to create that things as a VTOL.... i tried. heres my version:
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Untitled
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: V.T.O.L.
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 70 Light Fusion
Cruise Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 Small Lasers
4 Medium Lasers
1 SRM 2
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Untitled
Mass: 30 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 70 Light Fusion 1 1.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 1.00
Cruise MP: 7
Flank MP: 11
Heat Sinks: 15 Single 0 5.00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Rotor Equipment: Main/Tail Rotors 0 3.00
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 64 pts Standard 0 4.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 16
Left / Right Sides: 3 16/16
Rear: 3 14
Rotor: 3 2
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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2 Small Lasers Front 2 2 1.00
1 Small Laser Rear 1 1 .50
2 Medium Lasers Front 6 2 2.00
1 Medium Laser Lf_Spon 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser Rt_Spon 3 1 1.00
1 SRM 2 Front 0 50 2 2.00
Infantry Bay Body 1 3.00
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TOTALS: 15 11 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,735,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 816
Cost per BV: 2,126.84
Weapon Value: 259 / 259 (Ratio = .32 / .32)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 20; MRDmg = 3; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 7V, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: VA; Point Value: 8
Specials: tran3
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