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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 30-Oct-2002 19:32 Post subject: Enforcer III Variant |
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Take a stock 6M version and pull the UAC/10 and ammo. Pull two heatsinks. Remove the 250 XL engine and add a 250 Light Engine. Add an LBX10 with two tons of ammo. Add CASE to the torso with the LBX ammo. Finally, add a quarter ton of armor to each leg. I call it the ENF-7D.
What does everyone think?
I debated an Enforcer Omni, but dropped the idea.
_________________ Jarylan Blackwell
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 30-Oct-2002 19:51 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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I like the fact that you increaded survivability. Thats very important. But just as a question:
That extra .5 tons of armor. Is there anything else you could upgrade with that? isn't there a small laser you could make a small pulse laesr or maybe a medium laser? Just curiuos. I can't remember.
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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 30-Oct-2002 20:56 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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There is, but I prefer armor. All of my designs mount maximum, or near maximum protection.
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 30-Oct-2002 23:33 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Normally I'd agree with you, but occasionaly, depending on design, i'm willing to sacrifice armor for fire power. I think to much armor makes a pilot think defensive, not offensive. I want them killing, not being shot at.
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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 09:50 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Actaully, I put lots of armor so they can be offensive. They don't need to hide behind things to survive. And the Enforcer is a trooper 'Mech and often pulls all kinds of front line duty where it gets shot at. Now, with support 'Mechs and Assaults (which get more armor than anyone else anyway), I tend to bend my rule. I suppose instead of upgrading the armor, you could upgrade the ERSlas to an ERMLas.
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 11:16 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Perhaps. It was just a thought. Just one more example of how you can have a disagreement on design philosophy and still be right (i.e. armor vs. firepower).
Its all bout what you like.
Raven
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Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 15:04 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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If it was me I would upgrade the small to a medium. Alot more bang and range for you buck. I would venture to say that 90% of the time those 8 extra armor points are not going to be needed on the legs.
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 15:35 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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which was pretty much where I was going with it. but different mind sets. Who knows, maybe his group uses land mines a lot (which would require heavier leg armor in design philosophy). My group tends to favor missiles, speed and electronics. you counter that with speed and ECMs its all good.
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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 15:48 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Actually, he's right. Whenever I have several tons of LRM ammo, one ton is either Thunder rounds or Enhanced Thunder rounds.
_________________ Jarylan Blackwell
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Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 16:54 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Hmmm.....I would personally still prefer the laser but I have yet to play with someone who went nuts over mines and thunder rounds.
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 19:11 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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Oh it can be a serious annoyance. They try to mine every place near them so that you can't attack them. Its a pain in the ass.
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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 19:24 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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I guess you'll never know the joys of watching a mint condition Atlas run into a bunch of mines and lose a leg.
Kicks are also very popular around here. It's basically a free attack.
_________________ Jarylan Blackwell
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Raven! Clan Snow Raven Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 20:10 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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our battles usually take four or 6 maps for a lance on lance battle. THey are always running engagements with terrain and movement being the most important considerations. I've seen people litterly move around 6 maps TWICE before taking down their first opponent, we love fast movement
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CO_17thRecon Kell Hounds Major
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Posted: 31-Oct-2002 20:14 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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We haven't got much table space at my house... I'd get a bigger table, but there would be no place to put it. Small engagements and few mapsheets are major factors in my battles. I tend to stay as mobile as possible though.
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Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
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Posted: 01-Nov-2002 10:16 Post subject: RE: Enforcer III Variant |
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I played one once on 16 mapsheets, 4x4...the joys of onboard artillery that is really not onboard
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