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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 08:47    Post subject: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I am looking for info on the Orion Drive that was purposed by NASA back in the 60/70s.

The one where you toss a nuke out the back of the spaceship and the set it off and use the enegery release to move the ship...does anyone have a webpage or know of a book that goes into detail on this?

IF so could you please share it?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 09:20    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

This is a link I have for it...its more of a history than anything else...

http://www.islandone.org/Propulsion/ProjectOrion.html

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 09:29    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Thanks! That helps out a lot as well!

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 09:48    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

The History Channel did a spot on this project. They showed archival film of a model made to fly by dropping small (chemical) explosive charges behind it's thrust plate.

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 09:55    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I remember seeing part of that a while back...

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 10:05    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

How fesiable do any of you think this idea would be for BT?

By fesiable I mean as different form of propulsion for Dropships in the game...

Or are there better ideas out there?

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 12:59    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Feasible? Well, it would work, but why would you? These sort of spacecraft can't re-enter the atmosphere and return to orbit. Dropships can. The B'tech universe already has fusion drives, so why use fission propulsion? As far as interplanetary travel, you'd be talking about a generation ship, which might be more sensible for something launched before the advent of the K-F drive for jumpships. Besides, the side effect of a launch is to flatten everything for a mile AND leave behind fallout.

Not very feasible for widespread use I'd say.

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 13:34    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I was thinking that this would be a low tech answer for one of the really dirty poor Periphery worlds or a forgotten colony etc...

Or maybe someone runs across one of these ships while exploring...things like that...

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 16:44    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Eric, if you are really interested in the subject, search for this book at amazon.com

"Spaceflight for Sci-Fi Writers" by Ben Bova

I read my book at my university library and I can tell you it's awesome

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 17:13    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-08-19 13:34, Karagin wrote:
I was thinking that this would be a low tech answer for one of the really dirty poor Periphery worlds or a forgotten colony etc...



That really doesn't make sene. You're looking for a cheap system for DropShip propulsion, but you want to use a system based on using nuclear weapon detonations. A system that uses an extremely resource intensive drive system, rather than just diatomic hydrogen.

Really the only thing I can think of that would be cheaper than a fusion-thrust system would be solar sails catching the solar wind. But that doesn't work that well coming back, even if you do tack.

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 20:17    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Thanks Vampire! I will try to get that book! I am interested in this and find it to an odd idea that for some reason has caught my eye...

Thanks again!

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 20:19    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-08-19 17:13, Peter_Smith wrote:
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On 2002-08-19 13:34, Karagin wrote:
I was thinking that this would be a low tech answer for one of the really dirty poor Periphery worlds or a forgotten colony etc...



That really doesn't make sene. You're looking for a cheap system for DropShip propulsion, but you want to use a system based on using nuclear weapon detonations. A system that uses an extremely resource intensive drive system, rather than just diatomic hydrogen.

Really the only thing I can think of that would be cheaper than a fusion-thrust system would be solar sails catching the solar wind. But that doesn't work that well coming back, even if you do tack.

[ This Message was edited by: Peter_Smith on 2002-08-19 17:14 ]



The Orion ships are cheaper then dropships...and use something most folks would be happy to see go away in this peaceful manner.

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PostPosted: 19-Aug-2002 23:57    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Peaceful manner, yes. Just as long as it stays the hell away from my atmosphere
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PostPosted: 20-Aug-2002 07:49    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I agree Hardware. I like the Ideas of using an Ion Drive or Gravilitic anomalation to move ships through space....


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PostPosted: 20-Aug-2002 08:00    Post subject: RE: Real World Aerospace Info needed.... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Why not just use slaves to row?

Sorry, was playing Trireme all night

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