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PostPosted: 18-Mar-2025 14:23    Post subject: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

All good points, I just got to stir the pot sometimes.
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PostPosted: 28-Mar-2025 01:09    Post subject: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

Word has it BV 3.0 is coming here soon, so that should fix all the issues of the previous two.
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PostPosted: 28-Mar-2025 02:21    Post subject: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

Where is this word?

Also, It can't. BV is an attempt to condense a multi-dimensional manifold into a line. There are going to be places where it breaks. But it will be interesting to see another attempt.
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PostPosted: 28-Mar-2025 08:20    Post subject: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

BV 3 has been a thing coming soon for over a decade now.
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PostPosted: 31-Mar-2025 13:30    Post subject: Re: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

Thunder wrote:
Where is this word?

Also, It can't. BV is an attempt to condense a multi-dimensional manifold into a line. There are going to be places where it breaks. But it will be interesting to see another attempt.


At adepticon they had a panel where they mentioned it. From what I've heard its mostly fixing BV of weapons like pulse lasers and MRMs that affect the to-hit roll, and MASC/superchargers. Dunno what else will change, but it sounds like its not a big overhaul, just a few tweaks.

Who knows when it will happen though.
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PostPosted: 01-Apr-2025 00:44    Post subject: Re: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

The problem with pulse lasers is that the weapon BV equations are balanced on the low end of to hit numbers. And pulse gains most of its benefits on the high end.

Hopefully its a full rework of the weapons values and not just a haphazard patch. Those are a pain to model.
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PostPosted: 01-Apr-2025 08:00    Post subject: Re: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

It should be balanced based on a standard 4 gunner. I mean, once you start lowering gunners BV means next to nothing as you're hitting everything that moves.

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The problem with pulse lasers is that the weapon BV equations are balanced on the low end of to hit numbers. And pulse gains most of its benefits on the high end.

Hopefully its a full rework of the weapons values and not just a haphazard patch. Those are a pain to model.

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PostPosted: 01-Apr-2025 08:18    Post subject: Re: BV 1&2 are over valued Reply to topic Reply with quote

I think he's talking about modified to-hit numbers...a pulse making a to-hit of 5 a 3 is nice, but making an 11 a 9 is significant.
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