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 Posted: 02-Mar-2025 09:03 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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Basilisk quad.
On the MUL the BV is 258
on Mordel the BV is 255
Its the Melee System. (Both regular and quad, I've checked both.) Its BV should include the damage from the baseline frenzy attack, not just the additional damage from the weapon itself.
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| Posted: 02-Mar-2025 10:47 Post subject: Re: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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The BV for that weapon is already 5, which I believe is correct. The base 2 damage is 2, the weapon provides another 2, and the BV is Dmg * 1.25. The MUL may be wrong itself, I wouldn't trust it.
Normally I check with MML, but MML only has a BV of 1 for that weapon on the Basilisk, which is clearly wrong.
| Thunder wrote: | Basilisk quad.
On the MUL the BV is 258
on Mordel the BV is 255
Its the Melee System. (Both regular and quad, I've checked both.) Its BV should include the damage from the baseline frenzy attack, not just the additional damage from the weapon itself. |
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| Posted: 02-Mar-2025 21:22 Post subject: Re: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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Quad Melee adds 4 damage for the basilisk for a total of 6.
MUL's BV matches when you consider the Quad Melee's weapon's bv to be 7.5 (6*1.25)
Its the mismatch between MML and Here that got me looking into this. Then we cross compared with the MUL and got a third answer.
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| Posted: 02-Mar-2025 22:07 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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You are correct. Looks like my BV calculations only account for the extra damage the weapon adds but not the original damage the frenzy attack provides; either 1 or 2, depending on tonnage.
Defect created HERE.
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| Posted: 02-Mar-2025 23:22 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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| Or 3 for ultra heavy protomechs.
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| Posted: 03-Mar-2025 10:36 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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Correct. I think the simple rule is 1 point of damage for a frenzy for every 5 tons or fraction thereof. Just in case they decide to create Super Ultra Heavy ProtoMechs! 
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2025 00:31 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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Breaks with a 10 ton protomech which is technically ultra heavy.
But yes, it would make more sense to do it that way.
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2025 04:04 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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And another thing.
The quad protomech melee weapon can only be mounted in the torso. But the site is allowing me to place it in the main gun location. Pg 67 IO
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| Posted: 06-Mar-2025 22:26 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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It is restricted to the torso. I just tried and I get a violation notice when I try to place it in the main gun.
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| Posted: 07-Mar-2025 20:50 Post subject: Protomech Melee BV mismatch |
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That helped! Seems to be an issue with editing/loading a design with a ProtoMech Quad Melee Weapon. Creating a fresh one is fine, and the system will have a Restriction of "Torso'. But editing a design or loading a design with the system allows you to remove it from the location, and the restriction is empty.
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