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ImperialOne
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 Posted: 23-Feb-2025 14:27 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Excue my ignorance- but where do I go to select Targeting Computer when doing mech design here on Mordel?
A more general quation, in most recent Total Warfare, it updated the rules to specify that Pulse Lasers (including Variable Speed Pulse Lasers and X-Pulse Lasers) as well as multishot autocannon cannot aim their fire (but can still benefit from the modifier), unless the affected autocannon are fired in single shot mode. In addition, an LB-X autocannon only receives the benefits if it is firing solid rounds instead of cluster ammunition. That being said, my question is: Do Targeting Computers help HAGs?
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 16:47 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Weapon and Equipment sub-tab -> Targeting and Tracking.
Yes, the HAG gets the -1 but cannot be aimed.
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 17:22 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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| Thanks. I do not know what I am doing wrong, no matter what, the only sub-tab choice under Weapon and Equipment's Targeting and Tracking is "Standard"
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Ruger
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 17:54 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Check ruled level and era drop downs on the general section. If you’re on introductory tech or an era before the targeting computer was available, you won’t have it as a selection.
If using inner sphere tech, the earliest era you can equip a targeting computer is Clan Invasion, but you have to use experimental tech.
In the Civil War era, you can use standard rules level.
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 20:23 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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| Thanks for the tip... but I invariably use Experimental rules level with the Dark Age introduction era over the Clan technological base.
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 21:50 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Are you creating a new unit or loading an existing one to then modify?
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| Posted: 23-Feb-2025 22:22 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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| THis would be a mech of my design made a few months ago.. one of the cases of constant modification here... lol
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| Posted: 24-Feb-2025 09:11 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Which one are you trying to modify? I can take a look.
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| Posted: 25-Feb-2025 15:57 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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That design is an OmniMech alternate configuration. As such, you cannot change the targeting selection as it inherits from the BASE configuration. It's just the way OmniMech construction works.
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| Posted: 25-Feb-2025 19:47 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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| Wow... I did not know that.
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| Posted: 25-Feb-2025 23:05 Post subject: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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I forget where it's defined, but it is most definitely a thing! Furthermore, just like vehicle turrets, you're supposed to specify the weight during BASE configuration, which I currently do not do.
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2025 04:09 Post subject: Re: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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| Mordel wrote: | | That design is an OmniMech alternate configuration. As such, you cannot change the targeting selection as it inherits from the BASE configuration. It's just the way OmniMech construction works. |
Mordel, it sounds like you’re saying that a targeting computer cannot be pod mounted to an OmniMech design. Is that your intent?
Unless there has been a rule change of which I am unaware, they are most certainly a pod-mountable piece of equipment. That’s why you have some OmniMechs that have them in some configurations and not in others, such as the Savage Coyote.
Or am I misunderstanding you?
Edit: doing a review of the original OmniMechs from the Clan Invasion and their alternate configs at that time, the following had configs with and without targeting computers:
Fire Moth
Adder
Hellbringer
Gargoyle
Executioner
The Warhawk also mounted a TC, but in all its original configs and some of the others have later configs with TC’s mounted as well, but these had some original configs with and some without TC’s during the Clan Invasion.
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2025 14:37 Post subject: Re: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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Ruger, you're correct, there is nothing indicating targeting computers can't be pod-mounted or mounted in the BASE config. I actually had it backwards with what I said. My designer does NOT allow targeting computers to be mounted in the BASE configuration. Not because it's illegal, but because you have to specify the weight of the targeting computer, which my code currently does not support.
ImperialOne, the problem here is you're creating OmniMechs incorrectly within the tool. What you should be doing is creating the BASE configuration, and then from that create Alternate configurations. Once the BASE configuration is saved, you can click the 'Create Variant' button or use the 'Load' button and filter for your BASE config. The way you're doing it forces you to leave the [BASE] text on your designs, and also doesn't enforce adherence to OmniMech alternate configuration construction rules.
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| Posted: 26-Feb-2025 19:23 Post subject: Re: Targeting Computer- for Design Inclusion |
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I didn't realize there was a specific way to construct mechs. I'll look into it.
Thanks
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