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Warhammer: 3025
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 Posted: 20-Mar-2005 13:34 Post subject: Just for the fun of it |
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I don't really expect anyone to say anything about this. I just made it because I could.
EDIT: Tweaked design weight, armor load, and chemical capacity.
SECOND EDIT: changed design weight and speed.
Type/Model: Fire Fighter
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Quad BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: Various Utility 'Mech
Power Plant: 150 Various I.C.E.
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Simple Metal Plate Standard
Armament:
4 Chem Tanks*
1 Chem Sprayer*
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Standard Emergency-Band Radio
Targeting & Tracking System: Simple "Iron Sights" Targeting
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Type/Model: Fire Fighter
Mass: 50 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Utility 'Mech 0 10.00
Engine: 150 I.C.E. 6 11.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 8 Single 8 8.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 LFL, 2 RFL, 2 LRL, 2 RRL)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Leg Act: Hip + UpLeg + LowLeg + Foot 16 .00
Armor Factor: 112 pts Standard 0 7.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 13
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 12 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Front Leg: 12 14/14
L/R Rear Leg: 12 14/14
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 Chem Tanks* RT 0 4 4.00
2 Chem Tanks* LT 0 4 4.00
1 Chem Sprayer* CT 6 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 6 50 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 16 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,022,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 609
Cost per BV: 3,320.2
Weapon Value: 0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 1; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 3/4
Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 6
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 14:06 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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A thought: the chem sprayer that this thing carries could easily be converted into a double-strength vehicle flamer (since it's twice as heavy, it should do proportionately more damage, right?).
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 16:16 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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there was a rash of these way back. i posted a fire truck, but it was pointed out to me that it was to slow to respond quickly.
this, like that, is to slow.
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 16:27 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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I've edited the design: by adding 15 tons, I made room for a larger engine.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2005 23:22 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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Even with the additional engine it is still a bit to slow. I would really expect this of around 7-11 movement.
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 00:04 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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On 2005-03-20 14:06, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
A thought: the chem sprayer that this thing carries could easily be converted into a double-strength vehicle flamer (since it's twice as heavy, it should do proportionately more damage, right?).
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No idea. But your dark age mentality disturbs me greatly.
As for the 'Mech, I'll have to agree with Stinger. It's just too slow. If it's meant to put out fires, it his to get there before the whole area's been burned down. The same comment from Vagabond inspired me into a hovercraft, at which no one has bothered to look. 
My other concern is cost. At two million c-bills each, I'm not sure if any city fire department could afford such a thing in any useful numbers.
And a question for you, Warhammer. It's called a "chem sprayer." What chemical is it spraying?
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 00:06 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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On 2005-03-20 23:22, Stinger wrote:
Even with the additional engine it is still a bit to slow. I would really expect this of around 7-11 movement.
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Not gonna happen. Not with a Utility 'Mech structure and an ICE. For 7/11, the most efficient weight is 25 tons, and even then it's 16 tons overweight.
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Warhammer: 3025
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 00:16 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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On 2005-03-21 00:04, StarRaven wrote:
No idea. But your dark age mentality disturbs me greatly.
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It's the possibility of the 'mech being used for combat, right? You know, there is precedent for that even before the "dark age". Example: the Grey Death Legion trilogy, book 2. Most of the 'mechs the Free Verthandi Rangers have are modified agromechs, construction mechs, pickermechs, and various other utility designs.
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As for the 'Mech, I'll have to agree with Stinger. It's just too slow. If it's meant to put out fires, it his to get there before the whole area's been burned down. The same comment from Vagabond inspired me into a hovercraft, at which no one has bothered to look.
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I looked at it. I just didn't have anything constructive to say. Back to the topic at hand: my original inspiration for the vehicle was from a line in the Explorer Corps sourcebook, referencing what they called "Fire Tenders", converted battlemechs that were on firefighting duty near the airstrip at Columbus Base. While this design isn't fast enough to reach fires in a city, its certainly fast enough to get around as small a facility as the average military base, especailly since they would be scattered in strategic locations.
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My other concern is cost. At two million c-bills each, I'm not sure if any city fire department could afford such a thing in any useful numbers.
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Bah!
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And a question for you, Warhammer. It's called a "chem sprayer." What chemical is it spraying?
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Foam fire suppressant, I imagine.
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 00:31 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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On 2005-03-21 00:16, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
It's the possibility of the 'mech being used for combat, right? You know, there is precedent for that even before the "dark age". Example: the Grey Death Legion trilogy, book 2. Most of the 'mechs the Free Verthandi Rangers have are modified agromechs, construction mechs, pickermechs, and various other utility designs.
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Yes, I know. I've not read that one, but I'd assumed that putting weapons on WorkerMechs wasn't unique to dark age.
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I looked at it. I just didn't have anything constructive to say. Back to the topic at hand: my original inspiration for the vehicle was from a line in the Explorer Corps sourcebook, referencing what they called "Fire Tenders", converted battlemechs that were on firefighting duty near the airstrip at Columbus Base. While this design isn't fast enough to reach fires in a city, its certainly fast enough to get around as small a facility as the average military base, especailly since they would be scattered in strategic locations.
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Oh. I wish you'd said that sooner. Speed would've been less important if I'd known that.
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Foam fire suppressant, I imagine.
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And now that I know this thing lives on an airbase, that makes more sense.
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 02:48 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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I looked at it. I just didn't have anything constructive to say. Back to the topic at hand: my original inspiration for the vehicle was from a line in the Explorer Corps sourcebook, referencing what they called "Fire Tenders", converted battlemechs that were on firefighting duty near the airstrip at Columbus Base. While this design isn't fast enough to reach fires in a city, its certainly fast enough to get around as small a facility as the average military base, especailly since they would be scattered in strategic locations.
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Oh. I wish you'd said that sooner. Speed would've been less important if I'd known that.
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Agreed
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 02:49 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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I'm a scatterbrain. Blame the ADD.
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2005 14:50 Post subject: RE: Just for the fun of it |
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Here's a better version.
Type/Model: Fire Fighter
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2423
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Various Standard
Power Plant: 160 Various I.C.E.
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Simple Metal Plate Standard
Armament:
1 Chem Sprayer*
3 Chem Tanks*
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Standard Emergency-Band Radio
Targeting & Tracking System: Simple "Iron Sights" Targeting
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==Overview:==
The "Fire Fighter" flame suppression workmech was designed in 2423 by the
now-defunct SafetyCo (a subsidiary of FirWorx Inc.) as an on-site
fast-response unit to fight fires and assist in dealing with other disasters.
Unfortunately, the design's slow land speed prevented it from reaching far-off
fires before the burning area was turned into a smouldering shell, and was too
expensive to be widely deployed. Thus, the "Fire Fighter" could only be
deployed in small areas, such as military compounds, airfields, and industrial
complexes.
==Capabilities:==
The sprayer mounted on the unit's arm is capable of dispensing many different
types of chemical, from foam fire suppressant to a de-icing agent to plain
water. With minor modifications, the sprayer can even dispense accelerant,
making the unit able to function as an incendiary vehicle.
Not only is the unit able to fight (or start) fires, it is capable of
assisting in rescue operations, thanks to its capacity of lifting and moving
multi-ton pieces of rubble.
==Deployment==
Fire suppression 'mechs are deployed at almost every airbase, landing strip,
starport, factory, and military base that can afford them.
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Type/Model: Fire Fighter
Mass: 40 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Standard 0 4.00
Engine: 160 I.C.E. 6 12.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 8 Single 8 8.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 64 pts Standard 0 4.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 8
Center Torso: 12 7
Center Torso (Rear): 3
L/R Side Torso: 10 6/6
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 3/3
L/R Arm: 6 5/5
L/R Leg: 10 9/9
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Chem Sprayer* RA 6 1 1.00
1 Chem Tank* RT 0 2 2.00
1 Chem Tank* LT 0 2 2.00
1 Chem Tank* CT 0 2 2.00
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TOTALS: 6 48 40.00
Crits & Tons Left: 30 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,726,364 C-Bills
Battle Value: 417
Cost per BV: 4,139.96
Weapon Value: 0 / 0 (Ratio = .00 / .00)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 1; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 2/3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 4
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Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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