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Karagin
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 Posted: 09-Jun-2002 00:09 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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On page 115, last paragraph, where they are talking about the death of Natasha Kerensky, they say it happen on Tukayyid, but according to all the other sources it happen on Twycross...
What gives here folks?
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Gangrene
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 02:14 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Maybe its metaphorical. Yeah, that's it.
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Horhiro
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 11:40 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Tukayyad, Twycross, Tennessee...
Wherever it happened it was pretty lame. To get offed by jump jets, give me a fricken break! 
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Gangrene
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 11:42 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Yeah, that was pretty lame. And what's even worse is they made an L3 rule out of it.
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Old Dog
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 12:39 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Wait a sec.
I knew that Nat was dead, having done the "I'll hold off the villains at the bridge while you guys run off" schtick, but...
She was killed by jump jets?
*Jump* *Jets*?!
Say it ain't so! How'd this happen?
Stupid stupid stupid...
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Ruger
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 14:10 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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On 2002-06-09 12:39, Old Dog wrote:
She was killed by jump jets?
*Jump* *Jets*?!
Say it ain't so! How'd this happen?
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Th Thurston invented Jump Jet Attack, as per "I Am Jade Falcon", IIRC...
Joanna was sent to fight her (Ravill Pryde sent her rather than a real warrior as she was so old it didn't matter the age of her opponent being so advanced)...Natasha had her, all weapons destroyed or somesuch and then the Black Widow CLOSED RANGE for some reason, rather than using her Dire Wolf's long range firepower to off the Green Chicken...
Joanna woke up, saw her coming, couldn't find a weapon, so she raised her 'Mech's foot and blasted Natasha's cockpit with the jump jets mounted there...
Munchy and cheesy, eh?
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Old Dog
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 14:42 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Ugh!
Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh.
That is so *horribly* lame.
Gawd.
I'd always thought that she fought for a couple of hours in her Marauder, knocking down one Clanner after another.
Geeeeze...
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 15:37 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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People get killed by Jet Blast every day, well, almost every day. There was at one time a rule that any mech behind a Marauder took some damage from the exhaust vents on its back.
Plasma shooting out of a small portal is plasma shooting out of a small portal, it'll melt your armor and kill you dead.
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Ruger
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 16:39 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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On 2002-06-09 15:37, Clutch wrote:
Plasma shooting out of a small portal is plasma shooting out of a small portal, it'll melt your armor and kill you dead.
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Then why doesn't it melt the armor of the 'Mech that it's mounted on? 
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 17:05 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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because it's being directed away from it.
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 17:18 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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On 2002-06-09 17:05, Ares wrote:
because it's being directed away from it.
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It still contacts some part of the 'Mech, if just the ports themselves and the area directly underneath...
Pressure from the blast, I might be able to understand, but if you are talking completely plasma based, why doesn't it also damage the 'Mech it's on?
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 17:34 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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I don't know, maybe it runs through a containment system or something, like a fusion bottle or something. Battletech never made sense.
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Old Dog
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| Posted: 09-Jun-2002 22:24 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Well, jump jets are nothing more than air, actually, heated by running air near fusion conduits (Plasma conduits?) ... Bottles of air are added to a mech in space, so it'll have something for short bursts.
So, basicly, a jump jet's nothing more than a really big dryer.
As Mechs can easily survive re-entry, something as minor as a jump jet shouldn't do much to one at *all*, unless it was used to kick up rocks and shrapenl and so forth. Even then, the damage would be cosmetic.
I'm reminded of why I don't read any Stackpole-era novel, now. Ugh. 
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Karagin
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2002 08:45 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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How about the erorr where Pardoe give Nat's mech ferror armor...I don't recall the Dire Wolf aka the Dashi ever having ferror armor...
And since when did it take two IS brigades to take out 60 Clan mechs and elemenatls??? I can understand wanting to win, but to toss that many mechs at a mere 60 is overkill and a poor showing of tactical judgement on Adam Stiener's part...oh and when did he become a military genius? What cartoon episode was that in?
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Old Dog
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| Posted: 11-Jun-2002 17:46 Post subject: Possible error in Operation Audacity??? |
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Two bats is, what, generally 80 mechs?
80 IS mechs attacking vs 60 Clan Mechs defending?
This isn't a battle, this is a waste of resources.
Typically, this will result in the IS forces taking about 50% casualties before breaking, while the victorious Clanners will lose between ten and twenty machines, depening on a host of factors.
That Steiner won this is mind-boggling.
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