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Cadet
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is it legal to upgrade heatsinks from single to double as a part of a refit? If not, where in BMR-R does it say no.
Is it legal to upgrade a IS Mech with single or double heat sinks to clan single or double heat sinks. Again if not where does it say that.
Or where does it say I can for that matter?
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chihawk
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 17:33 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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I think you can do a field re-fit from singles to doubles...in fact I'm almost certain of it.
I can't answer about IS to Clan because I dislike mixed tech and know very little about it.
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 17:47 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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I was thinking from a role playing stand point. Get some Clan salvage and upgrade your mech. That kind of thing.
But if you have a IS mech with singles, would you first have to convert them to doubles and then to Clan DHS or can you go directly from IS singles to Clan DHS?
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 17:48 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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Mixing of tech is allowed, BUT the becomes a LEVEL 3 mech and can not be used in any offical tournaments.
Refits can get any item that is there for the tech type.
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Peter_Smith
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 18:20 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 17:29, Cadet wrote:
is it legal to upgrade heatsinks from single to double as a part of a refit? If not, where in BMR-R does it say no.
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IIRC MaxTech had the customization rules. But nothing's preventing you from swapping out the singles for doubles (aside from an incompotent tech). Just be sure you get the ones in the engine as well.
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Is it legal to upgrade a IS Mech with single or double heat sinks to clan single or double heat sinks. Again if not where does it say that.
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Again, I don't see why not. It's a matter of making the rolls, though. And in addition to having a good tech, a good supply of Clan Heat Sinks is also in order.
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Or where does it say I can for that matter?
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MaxTech, I believe.
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Peter_Smith
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 18:23 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 17:47, Cadet wrote:
But if you have a IS mech with singles, would you first have to convert them to doubles and then to Clan DHS or can you go directly from IS singles to Clan DHS?
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You should be able to go from IS SHS directly to Clan DHS, as Clan DHS and Inner Sphere DHS are separate systems (2 crits vs. 3 crits each game-wise, fluff/fiction indicates different fluid).
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Warner
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 19:10 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 17:29, Cadet wrote:
is it legal to upgrade heatsinks from single to double as a part of a refit? If not, where in BMR-R does it say no.
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Yes it is legal. It can be done as a field refit kit or at a repair facility.
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Is it legal to upgrade a IS Mech with single or double heat sinks to clan single or double heat sinks. Again if not where does it say that. |
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Yes it is. Remember, the Level 2 rules and lower are used for Official Tournaments. So they couldn't be used in those. But for use in a home campaign or such yes. In Dragon Roars it gives you specific Inner Sphere OmniMech upgrades using Clan Technology. Weapons and iirc, heatsinks too. But that is part of a campaign and therefore a precedent has been set and makes it legal to use.
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Or where does it say I can for that matter?
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It is illegal to take a single heat sink and use it with a double heatsink and that is stated on page 138 in the BMR(r) under Double Heat Sinks 'Single and double heat sinks cannot be mixed in any unit. Vehicles cannot carry double heat sinks.'
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chihawk
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 19:17 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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See, I knew it was possible 
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 19:34 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 19:17, chihawk wrote:
See, I knew it was possible
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You're so smart...I guess that's why you're Khan and I'm sleeping with the interns.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 20:09 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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You only get the ones I through with
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 20:24 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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If the saKhan gets sloppy seconds, what chance do the rest of the men have?
The things I have to put up with around here.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 20:35 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 19:10, Warner wrote:
In Dragon Roars it gives you specific Inner Sphere OmniMech upgrades using Clan Technology. Weapons and iirc, heatsinks too. But that is part of a campaign and therefore a precedent has been set and makes it legal to use.
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Uhmm...mixing of tech was done long before the Dragon Roars, it was done in the Twycross Scenario pack.
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Warner
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 20:45 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 20:35, Karagin wrote:
Uhmm...mixing of tech was done long before the Dragon Roars, it was done in the Twycross Scenario pack.
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True. But this was the first one that came to mind and showed a better working model in my opinion.
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AWAD
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 21:46 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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The replacment is fine, just the issue of critical spaces. I feel if you have to move the HS lcoation due to lack of crit spaces to add DHS.... it just became a longer and harder task.
AWAD- Yes I was one of those evil GMs that made them make engineering and tech roles... and kept them secret.... until the shit hit the fan
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| Posted: 13-May-2002 22:38 Post subject: Heat sinks |
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On 2002-05-13 21:46, AWAD wrote:
AWAD- Yes I was one of those evil GMs that made them make engineering and tech roles... and kept them secret.... until the shit hit the fan
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Yes...thank you for that, by the way...
Oh, and you forgot to mention that you made us replace the entire engine of Jung's Wolverine-6M, Iman's Grand Dragon-1G and Luicci's Griffin-1N when we upgraded them to double heat sinks...
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