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 Posted: 20-Feb-2002 10:51 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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hello, this is my frist message.
there is a level 3 turnment comming next week that i will be fighting in it. here is the rules:
cost- no limit
B.V.- no limit
tonnage- all, but this is my assult intrey
sounds like fun dont it !!
here is my mech that i have been trying to perefect for a while. any comments or ideas would be helpful.
dark hawk
cost- c-bills 88,574,000. ouch!!
B.V.- 2769
tonnage- 100
technoloigy- clan
level- 3
internal structure- composite tons- 5
engine- 300XXL -6.5
walk- 3
run- 5
jump- none
heat sinks- double 12(24) -2
gyro- XL -1.5
cockpit- -3
tracking system- standard -0
armor- ferro-fibrous -16
factor- 307
head- 9
center torso- 52/10
R/L torso- 32/10
R/L arm- 34
R/L leg- 42
weapons & ammo
type location tons
gauss RA 12
gauss LA 12
gauss RT 12
gauss LT 12
large pulse laser RA 6
large pulse laser LA 6
ammo (gauss) RT 1
ammo (gauss) LT 1
ammo (gauss) RL 2
ammo (gauss) LL 2
so far in play testing i have been able to wast ever mech my buddies have used. once combat is engauged none have lasted more than 4 turns (thats 40 seconds).
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Karagin
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 13:46 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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Why not go with ER Pulse Lasers instead of the Standard ones?
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 15:47 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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I would dump 2 of the gausses. Ammo and all. And replace them with about 6 ER medium lasers and some more heat sinks. It would rise your heat scale a little. But it would you some close range weapons. without giving up any real firepower.
I am not to crazy about XXL engins. I mean they take out one torso. and that is all she wrote.
If you really want to drive them nuts. Make a assult mech with a standard engine. With a ERPPC in the center. So even with both arms and torso gone. you are still in the the fight. To where the other guys. (Who most likey have XL and XXL.)Will be out. Giveing you the advatage of durablity. Remember. The last guy standing is the winner.
Just a thought.
BTW: Welcome to board
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 15:49 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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Anytime you have 3 possible sections that can be destroyed to destroy your mech you've chosen unwisely.
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 16:51 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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I agree. There are VERY few exceptions I make when selecting 'mechs. I never take an IS mech with XL (except the Wraith, that is the only exception). If I'm playing just for fun or something, then sometimes I'll experiment and take mechs with XL just for a change.
But it's always been my experience that 'mechs that can live without their torso(s) will almost always live just as long, if not longer, then a 'mech with more firepower but dies when a torso goes away.
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 16:59 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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well the turnment is on turf so range is the biggest factor. that is why i went with the gauss rifels. i like the range of the light gauss but they dont have any stoping
power. this mech will be fighting other assult mechs so i need big guns.
as far as the XXL. i agree its like carring a time bomb in your chest, but if you want max weapions you must take the chance.
i do like the erpulse laser idea(thanx) but i will have to play test the new heat
efects.
i will tell you guys how i do.
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 21:38 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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why not muchaniz?
4 lpl, combined to a tc. 17 double heat sinks. ehanced imaging. compact engine. compact gyro. no arms, as per armless mechs in maxtech. turret all lpl's. add 3 coolant pods. speed 2/3.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 21:53 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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On 2002-02-20 21:38, Vagabond wrote:
why not muchaniz?
4 lpl, combined to a tc. 17 double heat sinks. ehanced imaging. compact engine. compact gyro. no arms, as per armless mechs in maxtech. turret all lpl's. add 3 coolant pods. speed 2/3.
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That is just sick...sick...sick...don't make me break out the 4 Clan Gauss Rifles/LPL 3/5 100 tonner to take it down with...
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 23:05 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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No Frak. That is just nasty. I even have a name for it.
The Cheesemaster
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 23:16 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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oh and it has hardened armor, also.
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| Posted: 20-Feb-2002 23:19 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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wrong.
So wrong
So very very very wrong
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2002 00:34 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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On 2002-02-20 23:16, Vagabond wrote:
oh and it has hardened armor, also.
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WHY!!!!!!!!!????????
Talk about cheesing it out to the max...man...
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2002 03:05 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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at least there isent reinforced structure.
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2002 07:25 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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I got on HMP last night to try and bulid it. No luck. Not enough crit spaces without the arms.
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2002 07:27 Post subject: unstopable ??? |
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Interesting...I just built the mech that is at the top of this thread without any trouble using HMPro.
Here is my take on the mech...and yes it's munchy:
Type/Model: Mister T
Tech: Clan / 3062
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Composite
Power Plant: 300 XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
4 Gauss Rifles
2 Large Pulse Lasers
1 Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Mister T
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Composite 0 5.00
Engine: 300 XXL 14 6.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 13 Double [26] 2 3.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 RL)
XL Gyro: 6 1.50
Small Cockpit, Life Supt.: 4 2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 16.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 52
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RA 1 32 10 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
1 Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00
1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00
1 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00
1 Gauss Rifle RT 1 6 12.00
1 Gauss Rifle LT 1 6 12.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser HD 4 1 2.00
1 Long-Range Targeting 0 .00
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TOTALS: 28 78 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 88,576,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,512
Cost per BV: 35,261.15
Weapon Value: 5,715 / 5,715 (Ratio = 2.28 / 2.28)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 60; MRDmg = 62; LRDmg = 50
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/4
Damage PB/M/L: 7/6/6, Overheat: 1
Class: MA; Point Value: 25
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[ This Message was edited by: Karagin on 2002-02-21 07:31 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Karagin on 2002-02-21 07:36 ]
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