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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 04:19    Post subject: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
as with all good things, they get better. the Elemental MK2 is just such a thing. with the advancement of Inner Sphere BA and redevelopment of tactics that render the Elemental MK1 obsolete. the clans started searching for a replacement. this is one such design:

Elemental MK2
Move: 2 Jump
Armor: 18
Weapons:
1 Small Arms Vibro-Bayonet
2 St Srm 2 OS missile launchers.
1 variable arm mounted weapon.
Special: Anti-mech, Mech Transportable

Standard Arm Mounts:
a] 1 True Mech Machine Gun w/50 bursts
b] 1 True Mech Flamer
c] 1 Heavy Small Laser



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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 12:43    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
I would rather have it keep the speed and if possible gain a little armor.

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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 14:26    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
well actually...... what i wanted was 3mp jumping. but i decided not to to please the balance mongers. as every other BA that big only has a max of 2mp jumping.

the design is based on the MW:DA Clan BA. which imnho is just kick ass looking.

so how bout this:

Elemental MK2
move: 3 jump
armor: 15
special: anti-mech, mech transportable
weapon:
1 AP Vibro-Bayonet
2 St SRM 2 OS
1 mount

mounts:
a] Heavy Mech MG w/50 bursts
b] 2 Flamer
c] Heavy ML

basicly the mount is 1 ton pod space.



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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 14:50    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
That would be a wicked BTech unit. Only an AC 20, Heavy Gauss or Heavy Large Laser would kill a single trooper outright.

Maybe 14 armor points would be more consistent and not so overpowering, that way it can take double hits from clan medium lasers. I would probably also make a rule that this unit has a little more trouble swarming since it has the extra armor.

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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 18:49    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
a +1 to-hit on swarm attacks.

as for the armor, i'm matching that to the Kanzuchie or what ever it is. able to take an ERPPC and keep coming.

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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 18:52    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
This might seem a dumb question, but does the design have the Heat Sinks necessary for using that Heavy Laser? I know from building a Clan Assault Armor that those things can be difficult to cool.

All in all, a very good desgin, keep up the good work. ^_^

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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 21:51    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
thats were the time defference comes in. like i said, this is my conversion of the Clan BA of MW:DA.

so giving abit of an advancement in Infantry Suit Cooling Systems. which i personly see as more then possible, in MW:DA. reason being that while mechs may have been scalled down, and vehicles the same. i can see every faction up grading BA research to improve the garrisonal infantry that they feild.

and seen as theres no 'offical' ba design system, and most are simple 'oh thats cool n seems balanced' i simply did the same. and remember ba are not mechs, most of the heat of the laser problly desperses directly into the air off the cannon.

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PostPosted: 23-Sep-2002 23:14    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
I like it. I like it alot. My clan just may start to use them. Thanks

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PostPosted: 21-Oct-2005 11:31    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
Any chance of this getting done via HMBA?

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PostPosted: 21-Oct-2005 12:54    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
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On 2005-10-21 11:31, Karagin wrote:
Any chance of this getting done via HMBA?


Sure, I just order HMBA last week.


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PostPosted: 25-Oct-2005 00:40    Post subject: RE: Clan BA MK2 Reply to topic Reply with quote
As requested:

The Anti-Mech Version-- 

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
                            VALIDATED

Type/Model:    Clan BA MK2
               (4 Configurations)
Tech/Era:      Clan / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  10.8 km/h
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type:    Basic Stealth

==Capabilities:==
Basic Stealth: +1 Med, +2 Long Range to-hit mods.
Vibro-Claw: +1 dmg during Swarm and Leg Attacks.

==Variants:==
Laser: 2 dmg, 4 rng
Flamer: 2 dmg, 3 rng
Pulse Laser: 3 dmg, 3 rng, -2 to-hit
MG: 2 dmg, 2 rng
SRM: 2 dmg, 9 rng, 

==================================================================
Configuration: [Base]
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid with HarJel      0       250
Motive System: Ground Movement (1 MP)                 0         0
               Jump Jets       (3 MP)                 0       150
Armor Type:    10 Points Basic Stealth                3       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Battle Vibro-Claw                      0        50
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Fixed Weapons & Equipment            Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Missile-Capable Modular Weapon Mount RA               1        10
SRM 2 (OS)                           Body             2        40
SRM 2 (OS)                           Body             2        40
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               8       840
Slots & Mass Available for Configurations:            2       160

==================================================================
Configuration: Micro Laser

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Micro Laser                       RA/MWM-M  90     2       160
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     727,000 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   48 (240 for 5)  Weapon Value: 28 (Ratio=.58)
Cost per BV:    10,979.17 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3J   Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Flamer

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Flamer                               RA/MWM-M  30     2       160
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     724,500 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   46 (230 for 5)  Weapon Value: 26 (Ratio=.57)
Cost per BV:    11,402.17 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3J   Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Micro Pulse Laser

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Micro Pulse Laser                    RA/MWM-M  17     1       160
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               9     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    1         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     729,500 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   56 (280 for 5)  Weapon Value: 35 (Ratio=.63)
Cost per BV:    9,455.36 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3J   Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 3    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Heavy MG

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Heavy Machine Gun                    RA/MWM-M 150     2       160
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     727,500 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   46 (230 for 5)  Weapon Value: 26 (Ratio=.57)
Cost per BV:    11,467.39 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3J   Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor


The Non-Anti-Mech Version--- 

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
                            VALIDATED

Type/Model:    CL BA MK2
               (6 Configurations)
Tech/Era:      Clan / 3067 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Heavy Battle Armor (1,001 - 1,500 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  21.6 km/h
Armor Type:    Basic Stealth

==Capabilities:==
Basic Stealth: +1 Med, +2 Long Range to-hit mods.

==Variants:==
Laser: 5 dmg, 6 rng
Flamer: 2 dmg, 3 rng
Pulse Laser: 3 dmg, 3 rng, -2 to-hit
PPC: 2 dmg, 7 rng
MG: 2 dmg, 2 rng
Recoiless: 3 dmg, 6 rng
Adv SRM: 2 dmg, 12 rng, Streak.

==================================================================
Configuration: [Base]
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Heavy Class Humanoid with HarJel       0       400
Motive System: Ground Movement (2 MP)                 0        80
Armor Type:    14 Points Basic Stealth                3       420

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Heavy Battle Vibro-Claw                0        60
  Right Arm:   None                                   0         0

Fixed Weapons & Equipment            Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Missile-Capable Modular Weapon Mount RA               1        10
Advanced SRM 2 (OS)                  Body             3        75
Advanced SRM 2 (OS)                  Body             3        75
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10     1,120
Slots & Mass Available for Configurations:            2       380

==================================================================
Configuration: Laser

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Small Laser                       RA/MWM-M  20     2       350
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,470
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0        30

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     707,550 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   61 (305 for 5)  Weapon Value: 60 (Ratio=.98)
Cost per BV:    8,320.49 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 10   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 3    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Flamer

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Flamer                               RA/MWM-M  30     2       160
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,280
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0       220

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     703,800 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   45 (225 for 5)  Weapon Value: 22 (Ratio=.49)
Cost per BV:    11,195.56 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 7   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Pulse Laser

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Micro Pulse Laser                    RA/MWM-M  51     2       170
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,290
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0       210

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     708,800 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   48 (240 for 5)  Weapon Value: 31 (Ratio=.65)
Cost per BV:    10,600.0 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: PPC

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Support PPC                          RA/MWM-M  14     2       240
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,360
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0       140

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     703,300 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   50 (250 for 5)  Weapon Value: 34 (Ratio=.68)
Cost per BV:    10,066.0 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 3    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: MG

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Heavy Machine Gun                    RA/MWM-M 200     2       165
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,285
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0       215

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     707,800 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   45 (225 for 5)  Weapon Value: 22 (Ratio=.49)
Cost per BV:    11,284.44 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 7   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car5

==================================================================
Configuration: Recoiless Rifle

Config Weapons & Equipment           Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Recoilless Rifle              RA/MWM-M  20     2       250
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              12     1,370
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0       130

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     699,900 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 200,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   53 (265 for 5)  Weapon Value: 42 (Ratio=.79)
Cost per BV:    9,432.08 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8   MRDmg = 3   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Travels on OmniMechs
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 4 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 3    Specials: mec, car5

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor


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