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Karagin
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 Posted: 10-Nov-2007 23:08 Post subject: Design Challenge |
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Wanting to cash in on the need for simple yet effective mechs, Blackstone BattleMechs, Ltd. revamped their Talon battlemech, removing the costly XL engine as well as the ER PPC that it normally carried these changes dropped the price down to where seventy percent of it's customers could buy more then one or two. These mechs are starting to enter service with the different Lyran militia units as well as several merc units around the Inner sphere.
| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Talon TLN-8W1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3058
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 35 tons
Chassis: Blackstone QTS Light Endo Steel
Power Plant: 245 Edasich Motors Fusion
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Kallon Light Shield A Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 PPC
1 Medium Laser
1 Small Laser
Manufacturer: Blackstone BattleMechs, Ltd.
Location: Inarcs / LA (BBML)
Communications System: Lockheed/CBM Comset 100
Targeting & Tracking System: Sturmfeur Highlight w. BlindFire Radar
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Type/Model: Talon TLN-8W1
Mass: 35 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 58 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT)
Engine: 245 Fusion 6 12.00
Walking MP: 7
Running MP: 11
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 3 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 RT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 116 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 6.50
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 11 16
Center Torso (Rear): 5
L/R Side Torso: 8 12/12
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 6 12/12
L/R Leg: 8 15/15
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 PPC RA 10 3 7.00
1 Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00
1 Small Laser HD 1 1 .50
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TOTALS: 14 63 35.00
Crits & Tons Left: 15 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 3,227,063 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,020 (old BV = 902)
Cost per BV2: 3,163.79
Weapon Value: 609 / 609 (Ratio = .60 / .60)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 7; LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2: MP: 7, Armor/Structure: 3/3
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 10
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Karagin
Imperial Karagin Army
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Location: United States
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| Posted: 10-Nov-2007 23:13 Post subject: Design Challenge |
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| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Cicada CDA-2F1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Hartford 300 Endo Steel
Power Plant: 320 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: 3/Star Slab Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Medium Laser
1 Guardian ECM
Manufacturer: HartfordCo
Location: Bryant
Communications System: Hartford J15 B
Targeting & Tracking System: Hartford S1000
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==Overview:==
The only change to this variant was the adding of Endo Steel and Ferro Armor
and a Guardian ECM unit.
The changes to the armor and structure are self apparent and needed
improvements. Cost went up but so did the overall protection for the pilot.
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Type/Model: Cicada CDA-2F1
Mass: 40 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT)
Engine: 320 Fusion 6 22.50
Walking MP: 8
Running MP: 12
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 107 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 6.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 12 12
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 10 10/10
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 6 10/10
L/R Leg: 10 14/14
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00
1 Guardian ECM CT 0 2 1.50
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TOTALS: 3 58 40.00
Crits & Tons Left: 20 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,092,666 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 791 (old BV = 669)
Cost per BV2: 5,174.04
Weapon Value: 157 / 157 (Ratio = .20 / .20)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 4; MRDmg = 1; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 8, Armor/Structure: 3/3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 8
Specials: ecm
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Sleeping Dragon
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Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
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Location: Czech Republic
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2007 04:12 Post subject: Design Challenge |
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So here is my official entry to this contest.
| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Axman AXM-0S
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Dorwinion Standard
Power Plant: 260 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: 4 HildCo Model 12 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type: Kallon Unity Weave w. CASE Standard
Armament:
3 Medium Lasers
1 Large Pulse Laser
2 SRM 6s
Manufacturer: Johnston Industries
Location: New Syrtis
Communications System: Johnston Wide Band
Targeting & Tracking System: Rander Pinpoint-HY
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Type/Model: Axman AXM-0S
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Standard 0 6,50
Engine: 260 Fusion 6 13,50
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 4
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 ,00
Gyro: 4 3,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 184 pts Standard 0 11,50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 28
Center Torso (Rear): 9
L/R Side Torso: 15 21/21
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 7/7
L/R Arm: 10 17/17
L/R Leg: 15 24/24
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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3 Medium Lasers RA 9 3 3,00
1 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 7,00
2 SRM 6s RT 8 30 6 8,00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
CASE Equipment: LT 1 ,50
1 Hatchet RH 5 5,00
4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 4,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS: 27 52 65,00
Crits & Tons Left: 26 ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 5 948 361 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1 395 (old BV = 1 189)
Cost per BV2: 4 264,06
Weapon Value: 1 241 / 1 241 (Ratio = ,89 / ,89)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 25; MRDmg = 5; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 4J, Armor/Structure: 5/5
Damage PB/M/L: 5/3/-, Overheat: 2
Class: MH; Point Value: 14 |
The AXM-0S was a pre-production model of the Axman battlemech. Using SRMs instead of the big-bore autocannon used on later models the 0S was often criticized for the lack of knock-out punch, but the warriors praised the machine for it's ability to withstand an insane amount of damage. This often helped it to bring the axe to bear and end the fight with a few well placed blows.
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AWAD
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2007 16:41 Post subject: Re: Design Challenge |
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| Karagin wrote: | With this one I dropped the XL, felt it wasn't needed. I also tossed the MPL. The mech is now a fire support or sniper...
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Type/Model: Night Hawk NTK-4Q
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3058
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 35 tons
Manufacturer: Mountain Wolf BattleMechs
Location: Vendrell
Communications System: TharHes Kr-A P/Comm
Targeting & Tracking System: RCA Instatrac Mark X
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Hmmm, is this a true Steiner/Lyran Mech? Mountain Wolf I am not familiar with, neither the Vendrell system.
This is a great garrison and medium to light mech support platform. But the endo steel bothers me for some reason. I know why you did it but for a sort of Star Leauge like, only 1-2 pieces of new tech this does not fit.
It is slow, it would probably kick a standard Panthers ass. It is talking to me but not sweet love.
AWAD- This with Commandos would be cool
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AWAD
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2007 16:53 Post subject: Re: Design Challenge |
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| Karagin wrote: | | Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Cicada CDA-2F1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
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==Overview:==
The only change to this variant was the adding of Endo Steel and Ferro Armor
and a Guardian ECM unit.
The changes to the armor and structure are self apparent and needed
improvements. Cost went up but so did the overall protection for the pilot.
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Not a Steiner mech but I really like it. I can see this Mech for that role easily. Go without the FF as a first version is easy to see. May have to use this as an enemy harasser. Could see some Locuts and other Cicadas as escorts to this.
AWAD- Pod Mechs rule
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AWAD
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| Posted: 12-Nov-2007 16:58 Post subject: Re: Design Challenge |
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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | So here is my official entry to this contest.
| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Axman AXM-0S
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Armor Type: Kallon Unity Weave w. CASE Standard
Armament:
3 Medium Lasers
1 Large Pulse Laser
2 SRM 6s
Manufacturer: Johnston Industries
Location: New Syrtis
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The AXM-0S was a pre-production model of the Axman battlemech. Using SRMs instead of the big-bore autocannon used on later models the 0S was often criticized for the lack of knock-out punch, but the warriors praised the machine for it's ability to withstand an insane amount of damage. This often helped it to bring the axe to bear and end the fight with a few well placed blows. |
Boooya. O Baby. I got me a contender. May be a low life AFFS Mech but this is pre civil war and would easily find its way into the Steiner Inventories.
Love the use of CASE and SRM6. This is a slugger all the way round. Like you said SD, early generation. Would be put in hot spots near Stars End and Chaos March.
Not many made. Could even see a version with a PPC.
AWAD- Got to get me a mini and paint.
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Sleeping Dragon
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Location: Czech Republic
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2007 01:57 Post subject: Re: Design Challenge |
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The fluff in 3058 TRO is written that it's a SL remake used primarily on Lyran / Jade Falcon / Priphery borders. the Upgrades adds some mercs to the list as well.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 13-Nov-2007 02:18 Post subject: Re: Design Challenge |
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Actually it could have a manufacturing plant on Solaris (making it a Hatchetman on steroids for local games) since Davions later borrowed heavily from the ideas born there. I considered several other machines, but the idea of a Hatchetman without that XL glass jaw was too good to be left to catch dust. Originally I made it with FF armour, but low-tech won the contest against overall toughness. The PPC is an interesting idea, but I would probably take a LL because of the minimal range.
TRO 3050 upgrades says that there is a second Axman production plant on Furillo owned by Defiance. It produces the 2N, which is armed with missiles as well...
I'm glad that you liked it... I hope that your group is going appreciate that you need to completely disintegrate the 'Mech to get rid of it... too bad that no official variant ever used the TSM (at least I never heard about any) 
The mini probably won't require any alternations since the AC in the old 3050 looked like a missile launcher, didn't it? 
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