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 Posted: 18-Mar-2002 22:30 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Cobra IIC
Tech: Clan / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 45 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 225 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9s
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Cobra IIC
Mass: 45 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 75 pts Endo Steel 7 2.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT)
Engine: 225 XL 10 5.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 4 1.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 153 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 8.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 3 RT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 14 21
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 7 14/14
L/R Leg: 11 22/22
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RA 6 28 8 9.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA)
1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 LA 6 4 5.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00
5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 2.50
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT)
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TOTALS: 34 69 45.00
Crits & Tons Left: 9 .00
When I realized that the clans had no verison of this awsome looking mech. I decided to make one. Tell me what you think.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 22:42 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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I just have a problem with an XL engine (Clan or IS) without a mech getting a huge boost in speed. 5/8 on a 45 ton is just fair and with that XL problem, it just doesn't seem worth the worry.
I do like the ATM addition though.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 22:44 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Good point. Let me hit the HMP again. And see what shakes loose.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 22:58 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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On 2002-03-18 22:42, Cadet wrote:
I just have a problem with an XL engine (Clan or IS) without a mech getting a huge boost in speed. 5/8 on a 45 ton is just fair and with that XL problem, it just doesn't seem worth the worry.
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Here is what I came up with. If I remove the ER Large I could boost the speed to 6/9/6. With a 1 1/2 tons left over. But would leave it with little long range defense.
The biggest differance in the IS and the clan verison (Besides the ATM) is the armor. The IS is really under armored. while the clan is fully armored. Which is another reason for the speed. If I put it at the IS level. And remove the ER large and a couple of jump jets.. I should be able to boost it a 7/11/6. But it just not be worth it in my opinon.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:06 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Toss one of the ATM and keep the ERLL?
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:13 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Then I could boost the speed to 7/11/5 and still be fully armored. But loosing a possable 27 punch with a 18 at long range. Is just not my style.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:17 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Gotta lose something.
Either toss the XL engine or lose a weapon or armor to boost the speed to make having an XL engine an acceptable risk to have.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:26 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Look at it this way. on a alpha it could inflict up to 74 points of damage. That is a respectable punch that even a heavy would respect.
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:29 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Fire Kills Foch said.
But you got to live long enough to shoot that fire.
Losing the ERLL only loses you 12 points of damage. 62 points is still respecable. Maybe lose some armor?
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| Posted: 18-Mar-2002 23:45 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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what Icer said
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| Posted: 19-Mar-2002 07:57 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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And in return, the heavy would punch the armor right off it.....
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2002 18:22 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Actually, before I lost TDB again, I had saved an IS omni version. I think that making an omni of that particular mech might be better (primarily because of how the weapons loadout and positioning brings to mind a miniature Crossbow.)
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2002 19:24 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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The Crossbow and the Cobra are alot alike. They both have missle luanchers in the arms. Both use a standard engine. And both have no weapons in the torsos. The only real differance in the two is one (The Cobra)is a medium, and the other (The Crossbow)Is a heavy and is clan.
My Cobra verison is also clan. But is a medium as well (Just like the IS verison)uses a XL engine and has aweapon in the torso. And is fully armored.
And you are correct. The IS Cobra would be better if made into an omni. And my veriosn would also benifit. But I never thought of doing it. Because the Crossbow is an omni and has the same speed and any weapons configuration I could come up with. But is a heavy and therefore better armored.
If you had a choice between taking to mechs with the same speed and weapons. which one would take? The medium or the heavy?
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| Posted: 20-Mar-2002 21:57 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Money. While it's being ignored as such, even the Clans have some sort of economy. Besides, if the Clans have this job (since The Watch sucks compared to many IS agencies) it would have to be because of Katherine. Meaning that unless Vlad is the type to brag about his "conquests," it's possible that it would show up as an omni (probably not even named that, and possibly modified; Remember, the 3025 Loucst and Stinger had the same loadouts but diferent construction and slightly different mission profiles.) in order to blur its true origins- especially if it were somehow to fall into Marthe Pryde's (AKA: Vlad's other squeeze) hands.
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| Posted: 21-Mar-2002 15:56 Post subject: The Cobra IIC |
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Money is not a big concern in the clans, Be it everyday liveing or desinging and building mechs. Just the production value. In fact the clan economy is based on more of a bardering system. The is clan money though. Used only by the merchin caste, It is called a KE (Kerensky) The the caste use it as black market money.
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