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Warner
Clan Nova Cat
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 Posted: 16-May-2002 09:25 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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On 2002-05-16 07:58, Nightmare wrote:
Jumping 3 hexes is to defeat yourself. You
get a +3 to hit on your own shots, while
the enemy still gets a +2, as if you`d run
the max 5 hexes you can run.
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At anything less then Long Range, yes you are correct. At Long range that is a +2 to the +4 modifier giving you a +6 then apply your movement modifier, gunner skill and anything else. So if you are a gunner of 4 you have a 10, and if you ran, you have a 12. Jumping I get a +3. Because I have a the TC, it reduces it by 1. My chances to hit may or may not be better. But I think I'll take those odds for you to shoot at me at long range any time. If I am in a city or hills/mountains you'll never be able to engage me until you can get in close.... Then things get interesting! 
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Nightmare
Lyran Alliance
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| Posted: 16-May-2002 09:32 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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Rephrase that: It`s pointless for the Sag
to jump, unless it can`t run a full 5 hexes
straight forward. This applies to any range
the enemy might be at.
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Warner
Clan Nova Cat
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| Posted: 16-May-2002 10:01 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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On 2002-05-16 09:32, Nightmare wrote:
Rephrase that: It`s pointless for the Sag
to jump, unless it can`t run a full 5 hexes
straight forward. This applies to any range
the enemy might be at.
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I disagree. And so would a few people whom I have faced using the Sagittaire. I see the 'Mech in a different light then maybe you do. *shrugs* But hey we all can't see things the same...
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Sir Henry
Team Bansai
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| Posted: 16-May-2002 11:42 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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Jumping 3 into Heavy woods would be one use of the Jump Jets.
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MEX
Clan Blood Spirit
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Joined: 21-Mar-2002 00:00
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Location: Austria
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| Posted: 13-Jun-2002 04:33 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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At http://www.classicbattletech.com/MonteDiablo.html you can download the data for the MonteDiablo scenario, including sheets for all 'Mechs ( Sagittaire, Stiletto, ... ).
I have played the Sagittaire in the official Monte Diablo scenarion in Vienna ( we won loosing only the Enfield, Exterminater, Osiris & Tessen and let none of the Lyrian 'Mechs escape ).
The jump-3 capability saved this 'Mech as it permanently jumped from one heavy wood to another heavy wood.
But as i usually prefer to play fast 'Mechs with long range energy weapons, like the Packhunter, i really hated the short range of most of the weapons of this munchy monster.
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Old Dog
Capellan Confederation
Sang-wei
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| Posted: 13-Jun-2002 09:15 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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Teh Sag. Aie.
This is not a munch mech. This is a walking death trap for any commander who sits in it.
3/5 speed, with IS pulse lasers for 95%% of your firepower? Bwa-haha.
You know, I can backwalk a Griffin, a *Griffin* at the same speed this turd can advance, tapping it on the chest with a PPC until the cows come home, and there's not a whole lot it can do about it. Not enough, at any rate, to justify the price. What is it for this thing? 30 Million-ish? Lord lord.
Be my guest, gang. I'll be over here, thwapping it at 15+ hexes away. 
-- Old Dog, of teh Old Obidience School
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Karagin
Imperial Karagin Army
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| Posted: 13-Jun-2002 09:41 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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But you are fogetting the all powerful Target Computer mixed with the less the power IS Pulse Lasers...
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Old Dog
Capellan Confederation
Sang-wei
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| Posted: 13-Jun-2002 17:16 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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No, not forgetting it at all. Just not fearing it. This thing just has 'Target' painted all over it. By the time it gets close enough to be a factor, it should be mostly dead.
Horrible waste of the C-bills, I'd say.
I'd be happy to stick the same cost in 3025 Griffins against it, anyday. Done right, I should come out without a lost mech.
-- Old Dog, Budgeting Beagle
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Black_Phoenix
Clan Nova Cat
Star Colonel
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| Posted: 23-Jun-2002 23:19 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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The Sagittaire is not munchy. It is just the Spheroid's attempt to close the gap between their mechs and Clan mechs.
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Stinger
The Knights of Chaos
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| Posted: 06-Jul-2002 11:40 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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Then they need to work on RANGE improvements first. I kinda like the way it looks, almost evil looking but the weapons load isn't scary at all. If it was me I would take one and strip the weapons and add a pair or Gauss or salvage clan Erppc, and the heatsinks to deal with it. Hmmmm..thinking of a new variant.
I personally have never been to fond of pulse lasers, and even less fond of the IS version os them as a Black hawk can outrange them.
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chihawk
Clan Blood Spirit
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| Posted: 06-Jul-2002 15:42 Post subject: Is the Sagittaire a munchy mech? |
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There's some sort of database error with this thread so I'm going to lock it until Mordel can figure out the problem.
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[ This Message was edited by: chihawk on 2002-07-06 15:43 ]
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