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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 02:23    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

OK.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 08:13    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

This site http://www.vineyard.net/vineyard/history/pledge.htm has a good "Reader's Digest" type history of the Pledge.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 10:37    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Politics, pure politics. How long did the pledge exist without reference to god? How long after the change?

Why sweat it? If you are religious, use the reference to god for, if not, skip it.

I do have a problem with people saying that religion should have nothing to do with our country. Watever religion you have it form the frame work of your values, how you should behave in life. How GOOD and BAD are determined, etc. I regard religion as necessary, what I believe the separation of church and state was about was the Anglican chrurch formed by england when the pope would not cooperate with king henry. The Papist/ Protestant wars in europe wher governments went to wars over the issue, sometimes civil ones.

I have no problem with government acknowledging that religion exists and that GOD is used as a casual reference to the divine (singular or plural).

The 9th District is constanly trying crackpot ideas, and is routinely overturned. I will not worry about it.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 12:01    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Now I have heard that some religious people, mostly in the south, are very mad about this ruling. I just want to ask them one question:
"Does God really give a &*@# ?"

Has there been any violence related to this yet? Remember that Religion is the leading cause of death in the world.
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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 12:54    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hey, in my history book it said: "The words "Under God" were added to the pledge of alleigence in 19(somethinorother) at the urging of Eisenhower."

-Just adding another source, don't martyr me for it.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 13:59    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Has there been any violence related to this yet? Remember that Religion is the leading cause of death in the world.



No, actually it isn't.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 15:13    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-01 12:54, Ares wrote:
Hey, in my history book it said: "The words "Under God" were added to the pledge of alleigence in 19(somethinorother) at the urging of Eisenhower."

-Just adding another source, don't martyr me for it.




1954 is the date and while Ike might have been president he really had nothing to do with it at all. The Knights of Columbus and a Democrate Senator from Michigan, I don't recall his name right off hand but I can get it.

As is being shown there are so many versions of who did what on this most seem to fall into the urban religion catogery.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 20:46    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-01 15:13, Karagin wrote:
seem to fall into the urban religion catogery.



YM "Urban Legend". HTH.

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 21:05    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

What do all the acronyms mean?

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PostPosted: 01-Jul-2002 21:15    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-01 20:46, AcidQueen wrote:
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On 2002-07-01 15:13, Karagin wrote:
seem to fall into the urban religion catogery.



YM "Urban Legend". HTH.

--Camille.





Either way...the point get's across. Thanks for the heads up.

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PostPosted: 02-Jul-2002 09:54    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-01 21:05, Ares wrote:
What do all the acronyms mean?




They mean "Yo Mama!" and "Hang The Habs!"

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PostPosted: 03-Jul-2002 03:25    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-01 15:13, Karagin wrote:
1954 is the date ...



1954 ? Wasn't that during the time when McCarthy tried to do the same to the United States what the Taliban later did to Afganistan ?

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[ This Message was edited by: MEX on 2002-07-03 03:37 ]
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PostPosted: 03-Jul-2002 04:11    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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What do all the acronyms mean?


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On 2002-07-02 09:54, AcidQueen wrote:
They mean "Yo Mama!" and "Hang The Habs!"



What are "Habs" ? And what does YM & HTH mean ?

As my mother tongue is german, i dont understand your slang.

MfG, MEX
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PostPosted: 03-Jul-2002 08:15    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-03 03:25, MEX wrote:
1954 ? Wasn't that during the time when McCarthy tried to do the same to the United States what the Taliban later did to Afganistan ?


In simple terms, no. The fear of Communism did cause some incredibly silly things to be done, but to compare it with the Taliban is even sillier.

I know you're just looking for a confrontation in this (you know, your standard "make a comment that's totally outrageous and use a ' '" or claim your normally very good use of English is failing you so you can say whatever you want), so I'll just let everyone laugh at your comment and move on.

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On 2002-07-03 04:11, MEX wrote:
What are "Habs" ? And what does YM & HTH mean ?
As my mother tongue is german, i dont understand your slang.
MfG, MEX



The "Habs" are the Montreal Canadiens, a team in the National Hockey League. They are not well liked by many hockey fans.

YM and HTH mean exactly what AQ says they mean.

Oh yeah, I forgot the " "



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PostPosted: 03-Jul-2002 20:30    Post subject: OT: 9th Fedeal Court rules Under God part of the Pledge... Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2002-07-03 08:15, chihawk wrote:
I know you're just looking for a confrontation in this (you know, your standard "make a comment that's totally outrageous and use a ' '" or claim your normally very good use of English is failing you so you can say whatever you want), so I'll just let everyone laugh at your comment and move on.



MEX sounds like this one goob we have infesting the hockey boards over at fanhome.com. Eddie Van Halen (the guy's userID) is also a Kraut, and loves doing the same thing--posting completely stupid stuff to deliberately incite a flamefest (like, for example, claiming that a Montreal fan's throwing of bananas at the Carolina Hurricanes' black goaltender during the Stanley Cup playoffs wasn't intended as a racial slur because the Jerry soccer fans do the same thing to Oliver Kahn--who, as we all know, is a cracker) and then claiming that he was either kidding or that he suddenly forgot how to speak English despite the fact that he speaks it better than some Ph.Ds I know.

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