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Karagin
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| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Hond 2
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 1, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 Kurenwor Lion I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Achilles Plate Standard
Armament:
1 Koegelman Class 5 Autocannon/5
1 Viper 6 Pack SRM 6
3 Holbar Arms Machine Guns
Manufacturer: Archona Technical Institute
Location: Shahnapur
Communications System: Victoria 400
Targeting & Tracking System: Eden FireSystem
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Type/Model: Hond 2
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 240 I.C.E. 0 23.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 136 pts Standard 0 8.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 41
Left / Right Sides: 6 25/25
Rear: 6 20
Turret: 6 25
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Autocannon/5 Turret 0 40 2 10.00
1 SRM 6 Turret 0 30 2 5.00
1 Machine Gun Left 0 100 2 1.00
1 Machine Gun Right 0 100 1 1.00
1 Machine Gun Turret 0 100 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 0 8 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 9 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,131,200 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 648 (old BV = 344)
Cost per BV: 1,745.68
Weapon Value: 272 / 272 (Ratio = .42 / .42)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 12; MRDmg = 4; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 6
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 03:26 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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Ummm... what is it meant to do? I mean it packs a lot of ammo. Beyond what I'd expect the tank to spend under most circumstances, so it is a deep penetration unit expecting to operate away from supply lines? It seems a bit too heavy and slow for that.
I think you could get similar performance out of 50 ton chassis, that would be easier to transport.
May I suggest a tweak that I have already used on one of my tanks? Drop the MGs and SRMs and replace them with SRM-2s
Two in turret, one left, one right one front all in all with three tons of ammo. Alternatively drop the front launcher for more ammo.
This way you get nine hex range instead of just three and you can pack infernos or fragmentation rounds to keep infantry at bay and you can always shoot at armoured targets with standard ammo. As a bonus you get half ton from lighter turret that you can use for additional armour, CASE, or something.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 22:35 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Hond 2
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 1, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 Kurenwor Lion I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Achilles Plate Standard
Armament:
1 Koegelman Class 5 Autocannon/5
1 Viper 6 Pack SRM 6
3 Holbar Arms Machine Guns
2 Machine Guns
Manufacturer: Archona Technical Institute
Location: Shahnapur
Communications System: Victoria 400
Targeting & Tracking System: Eden FireSystem
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Type/Model: Hond 2
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 240 I.C.E. 0 23.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 136 pts Standard 0 8.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 41
Left / Right Sides: 6 25/25
Rear: 6 20
Turret: 6 25
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Autocannon/5 Turret 0 40 2 10.00
1 SRM 6 Turret 0 30 2 5.00
1 Machine Gun Left 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Right 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Turret 0 100 2 1.00
1 Machine Gun Front 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Rear 0 1 .50
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TOTALS: 0 10 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 7 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,145,600 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 655 (old BV = 351)
Cost per BV: 1,749.01
Weapon Value: 285 / 285 (Ratio = .44 / .44)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 4; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 6
Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 7
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Karagin
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 22:36 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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This one I went with a bit "higher" tech aka fusion and lasers:
| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Hond 3
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 1, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 Pitban Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Autocannon/5
1 SRM 6
2 Medium Lasers
3 Machine Guns
1 Small Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Hond 3
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 240 Fusion 0 11.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 6.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 200 pts Standard 0 12.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 40
Left / Right Sides: 6 40/40
Rear: 6 40
Turret: 6 40
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Autocannon/5 Turret 0 40 2 10.00
1 SRM 6 Turret 0 30 2 5.00
1 Medium Laser Front 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser Turret 3 1 1.00
1 Machine Gun Left 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Right 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Turret 0 100 2 1.00
1 Small Laser Right 1 1 .50
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TOTALS: 7 11 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,491,600 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 933 (old BV = 517)
Cost per BV: 2,670.53
Weapon Value: 687 / 687 (Ratio = .74 / .74)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 20; MRDmg = 5; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 8
Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 9
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Karagin
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 22:37 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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This one took things a bit higher in tech and cost:
| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
THB Weapons
Type/Model: Hond 3 Mk IV
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 300 Vlar XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 HV AC/10 (THB)
1 Small X-Pulse Laser
1 Med X-Pulse Laser
1 Streak SRM 6
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Hond 3 Mk IV
Mass: 60 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 2 9.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 4.75
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 2.05
Armor Factor: 182 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 10.16
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 46
Left / Right Sides: 6 35/35
Rear: 6 24
Turret: 6 42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 HV AC/10 (THB) Turret 0 16 2 16.00
1 Small X-Pulse Laser Front 3 1 1.00
1 Med X-Pulse Laser Turret 6 1 2.00
1 Streak SRM 6 Turret 0 15 2 5.50
2 One Shot Smoke Dischargers (Turret) Body 1 .04
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TOTALS: 9 11 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 9,309,520 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,160 (old BV = 739)
Cost per BV: 8,025.45
Weapon Value: 807 / 721 (Ratio = .70 / .62)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 5T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 7
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 12
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Noting that I have tried to keep things close to what I started with.
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 22:39 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Hond 4
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 240 Pitban Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Ultra AC/5
1 SRM 6
2 ER Medium Lasers
3 Machine Guns
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Hond 4
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 240 Fusion 0 11.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 6.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 200 pts Standard 0 12.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 40
Left / Right Sides: 6 40/40
Rear: 6 40
Turret: 6 40
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Ultra AC/5 Turret 0 20 2 10.00
1 SRM 6 Turret 0 30 2 5.00
1 ER Medium Laser Turret 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser Front 5 1 1.00
1 Machine Gun Left 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Right 0 1 .50
1 Machine Gun Turret 0 100 2 1.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 1 .50
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TOTALS: 10 11 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,801,600 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,001 (old BV = 586)
Cost per BV: 2,798.8
Weapon Value: 764 / 764 (Ratio = .76 / .76)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 22; MRDmg = 9; LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 8
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 10
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| Posted: 15-Jun-2013 22:41 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Hond 5
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 60 tons
Power Plant: 360 Hermes XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Autocannon/5
1 SRM 6
1 Flamer
2 Machine Guns
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Hond 5
Mass: 60 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 30 pts Standard 0 6.00
Engine: 360 XL Fusion 2 16.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 8.50
Cruise MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.00
Crew: 4 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 126 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 7.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 6 30
Left / Right Sides: 6 23/23
Rear: 6 20
Turret: 6 30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Autocannon/5 Turret 0 40 2 10.00
1 SRM 6 Turret 0 15 2 4.00
1 Flamer Rear 3 1 1.00
2 Machine Guns Front 0 100 3 1.50
1 ER Small Laser Turret 2 1 .50
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 1 .50
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TOTALS: 5 14 60.00
Items & Tons Left: 3 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,108,400 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 743 (old BV = 423)
Cost per BV: 13,604.85
Weapon Value: 338 / 338 (Ratio = .45 / .45)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 4; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 6T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 5
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 7
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 16-Jun-2013 04:44 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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At this point 50 ton chassis would be even better 
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| Posted: 16-Jun-2013 12:16 Post subject: Re: Hond 2 |
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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | | At this point 50 ton chassis would be even better |
To me this just looks like a bunch of mods for a Shadow Hawk plopped onto a larger chassis. 
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Karagin
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| Posted: 16-Jun-2013 12:31 Post subject: Hond 2 |
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Nope no connection to the Shadow Hawk.
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